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SDS100?

Maggie O'Connor
 

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG

Joe M.
 

I would put the x36 receivers a little better in sensitivity.

But the SDS series has some really nice benefits.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as
a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital
these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it
work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF
bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's
still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the
way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG




waynegentry
 

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800 trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain and also a ham operator.

On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) <Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG



waynegentry
 

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.

On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...> wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800 trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) <Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG





Joe M.
 

That's odd. I notice very little difference between the 436
and 100. There is some, but it's not as if the 100 is useless.

In testing the difference is about 3 to 6 dB difference at worst.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 6:35 PM, waynegentry wrote:
Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800 trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) <Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG





Maggie O'Connor
 

Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800 mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up (programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it.. Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...> wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800 trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) <Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception, as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners.. It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG





Joe M.
 

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436 is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the 100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG










Maggie O'Connor
 

That's a lot of great information Joe. I really appreciate it. I definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of static. It has great features though - even though I don't make use of too many. I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so I have just switched over to that one! What I have looks like the Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate the advice and thoughts. The last thing I want to do it buy another scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot.. Instead of "background music" - I always have my scanners running! I listen to a lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when I clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG











Joe M.
 

The version Radio Shack sold said "800 MHz" on it. They are identical.

I have to wonder if you have the noise issue which some 436s had. Do you have a mobile antenna you can try on it? Or anything that will get the antenna more than two feet away from the scanner?

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:55 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
That's a lot of great information Joe. I really appreciate it. I
definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
static. It has great features though - even though I don't make use of
too many. I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to
try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the
Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a
collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so
I have just switched over to that one! What I have looks like the
Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just
saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate
the advice and thoughts. The last thing I want to do it buy another
scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot.. Instead of
"background music" - I always have my scanners running! I listen to a
lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for
better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of
my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when I
clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by
Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge
difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all
bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG















Kirk McDonald
 

Wayne, what can you tell me about the SDS200? Good, bad or otherwise.
I plan on getting one next month and put it in my truck.
I to am a Ham, and on the FD as a Fire Marshal with a few more years to go before I retire.
Most of my monitoring is VHF-UHF but our State PD is 700 trunked digital and I can't get them on my Uniden BT885

KB1EED

On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 11:56:04 PM EST, Maggie/Tom O’Connor <maggie-o@...> wrote:


That's a lot of great information Joe.  I really appreciate it.  I
definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
static.  It has great features though - even though I don't make use of too
many.  I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to try
different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the Remtronix 800..
It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a collection of antennas
and I've not really figured out what's best - so I have just switched over
to that one!  What I have looks like the Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on
it - not Remtronix, like what I just saw online.. I'm going to think
positive though - and I super appreciate the advice and thoughts.  The last
thing I want to do it buy another scanner.. But it is definitely something I
listen to a lot..  Instead of "background music" - I always have my scanners
running!  I listen to a lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence
my desire for better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of my
396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when  I clicked on a
picture of what it looks like was an article on it by Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
> Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!
>
> Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
> reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
> hearing them.
>
> I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
> that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
> outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge difference.
>
> I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
> uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
> it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
> showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
> mhz, it's been disappointing.
>
> I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
> before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
> encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
> (programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
> Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.
>
> But I'm definitely open to ideas..
>
> Thank you all so very much.
> - Maggie
>
> -----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
> To: main@uniden.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
>
> If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
> bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
>> trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
>> agree, that is all that radio is good for.  My sds200 got it September
>> 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
>> call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
>> and also a ham operator.
>>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
>>> <Maggie-o@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
>>> as a portable radio, better than the 436?  I actually don't need
>>> digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
>>> have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
>>> VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
>>> It's still great on my old 245XLT!
>>>
>>> Thanks - Maggie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan
>>>
>>> Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?
>>>
>>> I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.
>>>
>>> Joe M.
>>>
>>>>> On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
>>>> I have a few  Motorola  friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
>>>> they
>>>> use  a 2 in Wide  braid to  attach to the frame to the trunk .  By
>>>> the way
>>>> they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios  but they all bought
>>>> Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and  Had the Company pay for
>>>> them
>>>> must be nice
>>>>
>>>> Happy Scanning
>>>> '
>>>> Don KA9QJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Jim Walls
 

Now you guys have done it.  With all this talk about the SDS100, I ordered one last night.  I have wanted a Phase 2 scanner for a while in large part because the Southern California Edison trunked system went Phase 2 when they converted to digital a few years back.  I am a SCE customer, so there is an interest in listening (particularly when the power goes out), but I worked for SCE for 24 years and ran their trunked system for a decade.  I miss not being able to listen.  Had yet another reason to listen to them last night, and I've had a bunch of overtime, so pulled the plug and ordered a SDS100.  There are an increasing number of trunked systems that are going phase 2 around here, so that gives more use.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road as more of the railroad traffic moved to that mode (the stuff I normally monitor is still analog - for now).

Maggie O'Connor
 

Good job!  You deserve it!!!
 

From: Jim Walls
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
 
Now you guys have done it.  With all this talk about the SDS100, I ordered one last night.  I have wanted a Phase 2 scanner for a while in large part because the Southern California Edison trunked system went Phase 2 when they converted to digital a few years back.  I am a SCE customer, so there is an interest in listening (particularly when the power goes out), but I worked for SCE for 24 years and ran their trunked system for a decade.  I miss not being able to listen.  Had yet another reason to listen to them last night, and I've had a bunch of overtime, so pulled the plug and ordered a SDS100.  There are an increasing number of trunked systems that are going phase 2 around here, so that gives more use.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road as more of the railroad traffic moved to that mode (the stuff I normally monitor is still analog - for now).

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi Joe,

I have some "foil" stuff (it's gold) in the back of my battery cover that one of you nice folks gave me.. I also did send it in for the battery repair - but I don't know if they did that other potential fix..

So - you're saying/thinking that an antenna that's a bit away from the scanner might be better? I DO have antenna;s like that - I can surely try that.. it's just that it wouldn't be outside or anything.. I have two - I'll have to find them - but I'll try it - if you think that could help.. I totally don't understand all the technical electronics stuff - at all - but I'm definitely game to try things. I will say I often wish I had gone to school for electronics.. It would help me in my IT/Tech job and just in my life!

Thanks all.. I'll let you know - but I'm going to be away from home, unfortunately, for a few days - and have a crazy week. I won't forget though.. you folks are always there for me and I truly appreciate it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe M.
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:10 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

The version Radio Shack sold said "800 MHz" on it. They are identical.

I have to wonder if you have the noise issue which some 436s had. Do you
have a mobile antenna you can try on it? Or anything that will get the
antenna more than two feet away from the scanner?

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:55 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
That's a lot of great information Joe. I really appreciate it. I
definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
static. It has great features though - even though I don't make use of
too many. I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to
try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the
Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a
collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so
I have just switched over to that one! What I have looks like the
Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just
saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate
the advice and thoughts. The last thing I want to do it buy another
scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot.. Instead of
"background music" - I always have my scanners running! I listen to a
lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for
better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of
my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when I
clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by
Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge
difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all
bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG
















azpowells
 

Congrats Maggie. I retired from LADWP many moons ago. Good luck.

 Wayne

On 2/23/2020 12:24 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Good job!  You deserve it!!!
 
From: Jim Walls
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
 
Now you guys have done it.  With all this talk about the SDS100, I ordered one last night.  I have wanted a Phase 2 scanner for a while in large part because the Southern California Edison trunked system went Phase 2 when they converted to digital a few years back.  I am a SCE customer, so there is an interest in listening (particularly when the power goes out), but I worked for SCE for 24 years and ran their trunked system for a decade.  I miss not being able to listen.  Had yet another reason to listen to them last night, and I've had a bunch of overtime, so pulled the plug and ordered a SDS100.  There are an increasing number of trunked systems that are going phase 2 around here, so that gives more use.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road as more of the railroad traffic moved to that mode (the stuff I normally monitor is still analog - for now).

Tom Sanders
 

Jim,
I will be interested to see how it works for you.  I just purchased the 436HP in December to listen to the Ontario County, NY 700mHz system which is Phase 2.  It works ok but the simulcast system does not always play well.  I may have to trade up to the SDS100. I recently found that my older 396XT seems to work as well and it is only Phase 1.  I have a couple of small mag mount antennas I have set up in the house (NY prohibits scanner use in a vehicle) and it helps a bit, but often not any better than the stock antenna.  

73
Tom Sanders, KB2NCI
Squaw Island Amateur Radio Club
Ontario County, NY ARES/RACES





On Feb 23, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Now you guys have done it.  With all this talk about the SDS100, I ordered one last night.  I have wanted a Phase 2 scanner for a while in large part because the Southern California Edison trunked system went Phase 2 when they converted to digital a few years back.  I am a SCE customer, so there is an interest in listening (particularly when the power goes out), but I worked for SCE for 24 years and ran their trunked system for a decade.  I miss not being able to listen.  Had yet another reason to listen to them last night, and I've had a bunch of overtime, so pulled the plug and ordered a SDS100.  There are an increasing number of trunked systems that are going phase 2 around here, so that gives more use.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road as more of the railroad traffic moved to that mode (the stuff I normally monitor is still analog - for now).

Joe M.
 

I understand crazy weeks. Most of mine have been crazy since Thanksgiving.

To clarify this issue, it is an oscillation that will desensitize the receiver. Using an antenna that is more than two feet from the unit gets the antenna far enough away that it will not pick up this oscillation (it's VERY weak).

IT? Don't worry - scanners are coming to you. You need not come to them.
:-) Scanners are more and more PC every model. (Personal Computer, not the other PC)

Joe M.

On 2/23/2020 2:42 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Hi Joe,

I have some "foil" stuff (it's gold) in the back of my battery cover
that one of you nice folks gave me.. I also did send it in for the
battery repair - but I don't know if they did that other potential fix..

So - you're saying/thinking that an antenna that's a bit away from the
scanner might be better? I DO have antenna;s like that - I can surely
try that.. it's just that it wouldn't be outside or anything.. I have
two - I'll have to find them - but I'll try it - if you think that could
help.. I totally don't understand all the technical electronics stuff -
at all - but I'm definitely game to try things. I will say I often wish
I had gone to school for electronics.. It would help me in my IT/Tech
job and just in my life!

Thanks all.. I'll let you know - but I'm going to be away from home,
unfortunately, for a few days - and have a crazy week. I won't forget
though.. you folks are always there for me and I truly appreciate it.

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:10 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

The version Radio Shack sold said "800 MHz" on it. They are identical.

I have to wonder if you have the noise issue which some 436s had. Do you
have a mobile antenna you can try on it? Or anything that will get the
antenna more than two feet away from the scanner?

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:55 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
That's a lot of great information Joe. I really appreciate it. I
definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
static. It has great features though - even though I don't make use of
too many. I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to
try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the
Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a
collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so
I have just switched over to that one! What I have looks like the
Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just
saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate
the advice and thoughts. The last thing I want to do it buy another
scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot.. Instead of
"background music" - I always have my scanners running! I listen to a
lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for
better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of
my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when I
clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by
Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge
difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all
bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG




















Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

Hello Maggie,

I'm definitely game to try things. I will say I often wish I had gone to
> school for electronics.. It would help me in my IT/Tech job and just in my
> life!
You may want to start working on getting your ham radio license. You will learn more about (radio related) electronics. You will find more people, many of them locally, who will be able to help you and for you to learn from them.

Mick - W7CAT

----- Original Message -----
From: "(Maggie/Tom" OÿConnor)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 12:42:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

> Hi Joe,
>
> I have some "foil" stuff (it's gold) in the back of my battery cover that
> one of you nice folks gave me.. I also did send it in for the battery
> repair - but I don't know if they did that other potential fix..
>
> So - you're saying/thinking that an antenna that's a bit away from the
> scanner might be better? I DO have antenna;s like that - I can surely try
> that.. it's just that it wouldn't be outside or anything.. I have two - I'll
> have to find them - but I'll try it - if you think that could help.. I
> totally don't understand all the technical electronics stuff - at all - but
> I'm definitely game to try things. I will say I often wish I had gone to
> school for electronics.. It would help me in my IT/Tech job and just in my
> life!
>
> Thanks all.. I'll let you know - but I'm going to be away from home,
> unfortunately, for a few days - and have a crazy week. I won't forget
> though.. you folks are always there for me and I truly appreciate it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe M.
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:10 AM
> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
>
> The version Radio Shack sold said "800 MHz" on it. They are identical.
>
> I have to wonder if you have the noise issue which some 436s had. Do you
> have a mobile antenna you can try on it? Or anything that will get the
> antenna more than two feet away from the scanner?
>
> Joe M.
>
> On 2/22/2020 11:55 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
> > That's a lot of great information Joe. I really appreciate it. I
> > definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
> > static. It has great features though - even though I don't make use of
> > too many. I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to
> > try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the
> > Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a
> > collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so
> > I have just switched over to that one! What I have looks like the
> > Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just
> > saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate
> > the advice and thoughts. The last thing I want to do it buy another
> > scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot.. Instead of
> > "background music" - I always have my scanners running! I listen to a
> > lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for
> > better reception and less static.
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of
> > my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when I
> > clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by
> > Paul.. :-(
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
> > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
> > To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
> >
> > No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
> > is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.
> >
> > As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
> > better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
> > things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
> > make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
> > are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
> > are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
> > read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.
> >
> > The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
> > from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
> > lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
> > as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
> > buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
> > 100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
> > fit. ;->
> >
> > The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
> > why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
> > now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.
> >
> > Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
> > connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
> > many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
> > adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
> > something I don't necessarily like design-wise.
> >
> > BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
> > very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
> > it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
> > than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
> >> Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!
> >>
> >> Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
> >> reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
> >> hearing them.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
> >> that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
> >> outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge
> >> difference.
> >>
> >> I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
> >> uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
> >> it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
> >> showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
> >> mhz, it's been disappointing.
> >>
> >> I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
> >> before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
> >> encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
> >> (programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
> >> Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.
> >>
> >> But I'm definitely open to ideas..
> >>
> >> Thank you all so very much.
> >> - Maggie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
> >> To: main@uniden.groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?
> >>
> >> If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
> >> bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
> >>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
> >>> trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
> >>> agree, that is all that radio is good for. My sds200 got it September
> >>> 29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
> >>> call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
> >>> and also a ham operator.
> >>>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
> >>>> as a portable radio, better than the 436? I actually don't need
> >>>> digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
> >>>> have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
> >>>> VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
> >>>> It's still great on my old 245XLT!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks - Maggie
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
> >>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan
> >>>>
> >>>> Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?
> >>>>
> >>>> I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe M.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
> >>>>> I have a few Motorola friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> use a 2 in Wide braid to attach to the frame to the trunk . By
> >>>>> the way
> >>>>> they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios but they all
> >>>>> bought
> >>>>> Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and Had the Company pay for
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> must be nice
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Happy Scanning
> >>>>> '
> >>>>> Don KA9QJG
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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azpowells
 

Joe:

 Glad you clarified that PC statement. LOL

 Wayne

On 2/23/2020 5:45 PM, Joe M. wrote:
I understand crazy weeks. Most of mine have been crazy since Thanksgiving.

To clarify this issue, it is an oscillation that will desensitize the receiver. Using an antenna that is more than two feet from the unit gets the antenna far enough away that it will not pick up this oscillation (it's VERY weak).

IT? Don't worry - scanners are coming to you. You need not come to them.
:-) Scanners are more and more PC every model. (Personal Computer, not the other PC)

Joe M.

On 2/23/2020 2:42 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Hi Joe,

I have some "foil" stuff (it's gold) in the back of my battery cover
that one of you nice folks gave me.. I also did send it in for the
battery repair - but I don't know if they did that other potential fix..

So - you're saying/thinking that an antenna that's a bit away from the
scanner might be better?  I DO have antenna;s like that - I can surely
try that.. it's just that it wouldn't be outside or anything.. I have
two - I'll have to find them - but I'll try it - if you think that could
help.. I totally don't understand all the technical electronics stuff -
at all - but I'm definitely game to try things.  I will say I often wish
I had gone to school for electronics.. It would help me in my IT/Tech
job and just in my life!

Thanks all.. I'll let you know - but I'm going to be away from home,
unfortunately, for a few days - and have a crazy week. I won't forget
though.. you folks are always there for me and I truly appreciate it.

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:10 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

The version Radio Shack sold said "800 MHz" on it. They are identical.

I have to wonder if you have the noise issue which some 436s had. Do you
have a mobile antenna you can try on it? Or anything that will get the
antenna more than two feet away from the scanner?

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:55 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
That's a lot of great information Joe.  I really appreciate it.  I
definitely don't think the 436 is worthless, but mine has just tons of
static.  It has great features though - even though I don't make use of
too many.  I really do like the display too.. as well as the ability to
try different antennas.. So speaking of - I think I DO have the
Remtronix 800.. It's not what I've had on it - of late, but I have a
collection of antennas and I've not really figured out what's best - so
I have just switched over to that one!  What I have looks like the
Remtronix - but it says 800 MHz on it - not Remtronix, like what I just
saw online.. I'm going to think positive though - and I super appreciate
the advice and thoughts.  The last thing I want to do it buy another
scanner.. But it is definitely something I listen to a lot..  Instead of
"background music" - I always have my scanners running!  I listen to a
lot of Fire and local towns that are UHF/VHF - hence my desire for
better reception and less static.

Thanks again to everyone here.. I was trying to get the correct name of
my 396 (I think) and one of the first things that came up when  I
clicked on a picture of what it looks like was an article on it by
Paul.. :-(

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 11:38 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

No offense taken. Actually what I said was that the receiver on the 436
is a little better. But that is far from saying either is worthless.

As for the benefits, the display is a huge one for me. Not only is it
better for display (easier to read), but you can show so many more
things on it over the 436 and can customize it. The colors really help
make things more clear. I know what color the FL text is, the Systems
are, the Departments are, the Channels are, the RIDs and RID Aliases
are, and what color the supplemental info is. This makes it easier to
read "at a glance" over a display where everything is the same color.

The 100 is a more ergonomic design. Frankly I don't like the walk-away
from AA cells, but I know why that was necessary. AAs would have only
lasted a few hours. The SDR chip is power-hungry. Hopefully they improve
as technology improves. The unit overall is smaller, and so are the
buttons. I often "fat finger" the keys and hit the wrong button on the
100. But it's darn hard to put a large keypad on a unit where it won't
fit. ;->

The SDS is also vastly superior in decoding simulcast systems. That's
why the SDR IQ design was necessary. Many systems are using simulcast
now and traditional receiver designs just don't cut it.

Something else I don't like is the move to the weatherproof antenna
connection. While that is great for the stock antenna, it eliminates
many standard SMA antennas. It does come with a BNC adapter and other
adapters can be purchased, so I just use BNC antennas. Still, it's
something I don't necessarily like design-wise.

BTW, for 800 MHz have you tried the Remtronix 800 MHz antenna? It has a
very long history of being the best 800 MHz antenna for the size (and
it's about the same length as the stock antenna). It also works better
than stock on UHF and almost as well as stock on VHF.

Joe M.

On 2/22/2020 11:05 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor) wrote:
Thanks so much Wayne.. I really might call you!

Joe, no offense but you didn't think the 100 was much better for
reception than the 436.. you said it "has some benefits" - I'm open to
hearing them.

I'm pretty much looking for a hand held though.. Wayne - interesting
that you think the SDS200 is better than the 100 - of course if you have
outside antenna's (which I don't) - I'm sure that makes a huge
difference.

I actually have a Home Patrol 1.. I got it for my husband, but he never
uses it.. I should try it.. I got the 436 right when it came out.. and
it was a lot of money but has a lot of neat features.. (after someone
showed me how to program it!!!) - but reception-wise - even for the 800
mhz, it's been disappointing.

I have a 346 - something or other - it's not digital.. I got it just
before one of my local areas went digital (but they have now gone
encrypted). I had it somewhat working, but then I screwed it up
(programming wise - said the IT person!) and I never went back to it..
Given I don't currently need the digital I should maybe dig that out.

But I'm definitely open to ideas..

Thank you all so very much.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: waynegentry
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 8:54 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100?

If you are just want vhf, uhf get a Uniden 15X. Great radio for those
bands and a whole lot cheeped, I have 2 of them.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:55 PM, waynegentry <waynegentry@...>
wrote:

Don’t buy the Sds 100 for vhf, uhf!!! Only great on 700 - 800
trunking. I have 1 Sds100 , got 6 buddy’s that have Sds100 and we all
agree, that is all that radio is good for.  My sds200 got it September
29,2019, works GREAT on all bands. If you have any questions you can
call me 937-559-9168, name is Wayne, retired volunteer Fire Captain
and also a ham operator.
On Feb 22, 2020, at 1:36 PM, (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
<Maggie-o@...> wrote:

Joe (or anyone) - do you think the SDS100 really has good reception,
as a portable radio, better than the 436?  I actually don't need
digital these days - but I've gotten to know enough about the 436 to
have it work for me!! I'm mainly looking for reception in the UHF and
VHF bands.. I think the 800 trunked stuff is good on most scanners..
It's still great on my old 245XLT!

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Antenna for my minivan

Think about it - would you rather pay $700 or $7000?

I would buy the SDS100 too rather than Motorola.

Joe M.

On 2/21/2020 10:56 PM, KA9QJG wrote:
I have a few  Motorola  friends who works at The Two way radio Shops
they
use  a 2 in Wide  braid to  attach to the frame to the trunk .  By
the way
they do the programming on the APX Motorola radios  but they all
bought
Uniden SDS-100 for their personal use and   Had the Company pay for
them
must be nice

Happy Scanning
'
Don KA9QJG


































harvey morse
 

Does anyone know if this new unit is compatible with a MAC for updates?

 

Harvey

K1DJG

bob_peloquin
 

Yes I know. No it is not MAC compatible. The software is the same
Windows only stuff that's been available since the HomePatrol first
came out; just modified a little for the SDS series.

--
Bob Peloquin - W1TAB
RR db admin (Massachusetts)