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Re: Charger

Marty Toomajian
 

It is a Sanyo product spelled Eneloop



On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:52 PM John Lewis via groups.io <jcl40511=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
What are enloop batteries I have bcd436hp 


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:08 PM, Evan Platt
<evan@...> wrote:
Have we established what scanner we're talking about yet?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:
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> Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.
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> They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).
>
> Joe M.
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> On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
> > What of rechargeable battery do u use in it
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Re: Charger

Joe M.
 

On 4/5/2020 2:23 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
What are enloop batteries I have bcd436hp

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On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:08 PM, Evan Platt
<evan@...> wrote:
Have we established what scanner we're talking about yet?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Joe M. <mch@...
<mailto:mch@...>> wrote:
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> Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.
>
> They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just
sitting).
>
> Joe M.
>
> On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
> > What of rechargeable battery do u use in it
>
>
>




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Re: Charger

Marty Toomajian
 

He mentioned 2015.  I found a model 2015 cordless telephone. Perhaps that but it seems very unlikely....


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:08 PM Evan Platt <evan@...> wrote:
Have we established what scanner we're talking about yet?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:
>
> Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.
>
> They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).
>
> Joe M.
>
> On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
> > What of rechargeable battery do u use in it
>
>
>




Re: Charger

John Lewis
 

What are enloop batteries I have bcd436hp 


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:08 PM, Evan Platt
<evan@...> wrote:
Have we established what scanner we're talking about yet?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:
>
> Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.
>
> They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).
>
> Joe M.
>
> On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
> > What of rechargeable battery do u use in it
>
>
>




Re: Charger

Mike Bott <mbott001@...>
 

Ikea sells a decent rechargeable battery, at least in my experience.

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On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 13:39 Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:
Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.

They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
> What of rechargeable battery do u use in it




Re: BCD996T

Jim Walls
 

On 04/05/2020 08:40, Thomas Luce via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for hijacking this topic. I still haven't seen an answer I understand about quickly changing from one quick key group to another.
If you are using System Quick Keys, it's easy!  For single digit quick keys, just tap that number key.  For two digit Quick Keys, the [Dot - also No] followed by the two digits.  For example, if I am monitoring a system with Quick Key 21 (Los Angeles County Fire in my case), and I want to stop listening to them, and instead listen to the system with Quick Key 4 (The Burbank site on the I-C-I trunking system in my case), press 4 (to turn on system 4), and [Dot] 2 1 (to turn off system 21).  Done.

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Re: Charger

Evan Platt
 

Have we established what scanner we're talking about yet?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:39 AM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:

Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.

They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
What of rechargeable battery do u use in it


Re: Charger

Joe M.
 

Most people agree the Eneloop cells are the best.

They have low self-discharge (they don't do dead as fast just sitting).

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 1:29 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
What of rechargeable battery do u use in it


Re: Charger

John Lewis
 

What of rechargeable battery do u use in it



Re: Charger

Joseph Zaks <jdzaks@...>
 

But do not try to recharge standard batteries.  Your name and address will be coming up on the scanner if you do.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:26 AM robertwichert <robert@...> wrote:

You can use any AA batteries.  Rechargeable or not.


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On 4/4/2020 7:05 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:
I'm wd4lew I need to know what can of charger do I need for it lost the original version of it 



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Re: BCD996T

Joe M.
 

Answer on question: Use Number Tags.

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 11:40 AM, Thomas Luce via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for hijacking this topic. I still haven't seen an answer I
understand about quickly changing from one quick key group to another.


Re: BCD996T

Thomas Luce
 

Thanks for hijacking this topic. I still haven't seen an answer I understand about quickly changing from one quick key group to another.


Re: Charger

robertwichert
 

You can use any AA batteries.  Rechargeable or not.


Robert Wichert 
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Office: +1 916 966 9060
Mobile: +1 916 712 4481
On 4/4/2020 7:05 PM, John Lewis via groups.io wrote:

I'm wd4lew I need to know what can of charger do I need for it lost the original version of it 


Re: BCD996T

Stevesweb
 

Just messing with you. Ive been working in computers and electronics since in my early teens ('70s). Dang I'm getting old.

I just remember using a 2.0A charger when I first bought my 436 and the battery compartment was very hot after a few hours (Why I looked at groups about heating issues). I started using 1.0A charger and it wouldn't get as hot. Just a personal observation. I recharge on a external charger now.

I was never able to find any amperage ratings for the 436, just voltage 5V ±5%.

Thanks for the info, have a good week. Be Safe! 


Re: BCD996T

Joe M.
 

NOT what I said. But you can connect it to a SOURCE that is capable of that much current. I never said you should run that much into your scanner.

Another example you might understand. If you have a BCD536HP, it is connected (directly or indirectly) to a car battery that can put out nearly 1000A. Yet the scanner draws maybe 1.5 to 2A. What makes it not draw that full 1000? That's because devices only draw the current they need - no more. That's why the 3A or 5A doesn't blow consistently.

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 6:13 AM, Stevesweb wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, I'm glad to know I can run 10000A into my
scanner. That gives me a lot more options for charging.


Re: BCD996T

Stevesweb
 

Thanks for the clarification, I'm glad to know I can run 10000A into my scanner. That gives me a lot more options for charging. 


Re: BCD996T

Joe M.
 

That is not at all how current works.

1. You need to make sure you use a source that will provide the current the scanner needs to charge. Using one lower will likely damage the source as the scanner tries to draw more current than the source can supply.

2. The scanner, provided with an adequate supply, will charge at a rate that is fixed. That means if your scanner takes say 700 mA of current, it will draw 700 mA of current from a source that can provide 1000 mA of current (1A) or from a source that can provide 10000A of current.

2A. The current in #2 will determine how hot the batteries get. It again makes no difference how much the source can deliver. 700 mA is 700 mA. Since the current is pretty much fixed, so is the heat. The only thing that will make the cells hotter are internal shorts which have no effect on the scanner's charging circuitry which will still provide X mA of current. (I used a 700 mA figure but it might be lower)

Your other point is dead on. Charging externally is the way to go for the reasons in #3. When cells start going bad, they short. When they short, they produce heat. When they produce heat (especially excessive heat), that can damage components around them.

Then there is the worst case - a cell shorting catastrophically. This dissipates ALL the energy in the cell and is released in the form of a LOT of heat. This usually will happen when the cell is nearly fully charged which means a LOT of heat. I've seen such occurrences melt the plastic costing of the cells, melt scanner cases, melt components, and literally destroy the scanner. I've seen the melted plastic coating first hand. You can Google pics of scanner damage.

BTW, the BCD436HP only came with a USB charger thanks to the CEC (California Energy Commission) which made it illegal to ship the unit with a wall charger. Only USB-charged electronics were exempted. That caused a huge issue when the BC346XT was released. Uniden was forced to remove the charging circuit and release the unit as the BC346XTC (C for California). Subsequent models used USB for charging to comply with CEC regulations.

Joe M.

On 4/5/2020 2:37 AM, Stevesweb wrote:

A higher than 1Amp makes the batteries pretty hot. I prefer using an extra
set of rechargeable batteries and charger them external on a recharge
adaptor.


Re: BCD996T

Stevesweb
 

I have a 436 and it came with a USB 2.0 A to USB 2.0 Mini B cable. Uniden.com shows the BCD436HP "Allows you to charge the rechargeable batteries in the scanner from any USB port." 

You should search for USB 2.0 Mini B. I use my cable to charge from an adapter with an output of up to 1Amp. There have been reports of batteries getting hot and damaging the Micro SD card during charging. A higher than 1Amp makes the batteries pretty hot. I prefer using an extra set of rechargeable batteries and charger them external on a recharge adaptor. 


Re: Charger

Vishnu Singh
 

Which device/radio? 

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:33 PM John Lewis via groups.io <jcl40511=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I really what type of voltage it has 2015 lost the original version come with it 


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:23 PM, John Lewis via groups.io
<jcl40511=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm wd4lew I need to know what can of charger do I need for it lost the original version of it 


Re: Charger

Don Curtis <Don.Curtis@...>
 

Go to Uniden's website and look it up! 



On April 4, 2020 8:33:24 PM "John Lewis via groups.io" <jcl40511@...> wrote:

I really what type of voltage it has 2015 lost the original version come with it 


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:23 PM, John Lewis via groups.io
<jcl40511@...> wrote:
I'm wd4lew I need to know what can of charger do I need for it lost the original version of it 


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