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Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Jim Walls
 

On 09/29/2020 20:01, Joe M. wrote:
Yes, P25 is listed. I missed that before. I didn't remember that
Type II supported that, as Type II systems are becoming obscure.
SmartZone can be analog only, digital only, or mixed mode.

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Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Joe M.
 

Yes, P25 is listed. I missed that before. I didn't remember that
Type II supported that, as Type II systems are becoming obscure.

Regardless, there is something wrong that it's not being imported.

Then again, since it hasn't changed in over 10 years, just add
those 5 frequencies and two TGs to a FL and be done with it.

Joe M.

On 9/29/2020 8:35 PM, Bryan Herbert wrote:
Motorola Type II Smartnet is a mixed system that supports analog FM and
P25 Phase 1 digital. Its been supported by every trunktracking scanner
made in the last 20 years.

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020, Joe M. <mch@... <mailto:mch@...>>
wrote:


First one is a Smartnet digital system. Not sure what type of
digital that is, but it's not P25 which means it's not supported by
the scanner.



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Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Bryan Herbert
 

Motorola Type II Smartnet is a mixed system that supports analog FM and P25 Phase 1 digital. Its been supported by every trunktracking scanner made in the last 20 years.

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:

First one is a Smartnet digital system. Not sure what type of digital that is, but it's not P25 which means it's not supported by the scanner.


Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Joe M.
 

Yes, it is, and it might be VSELP digital.

Regardless, it's not a system that appears to be accurately
listed. Half of the TGs are also listed as encrypted.

Joe M.

On 9/29/2020 8:13 PM, Evan Platt wrote:
Isn't SmartZone the old Analog system?
San Francisco is Smartone, and now for the first time I've noticed
there's digital talkgroups listed there...

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=60

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:01 PM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:

That's easily explained.

Easier one first. The second one has no TGs. Solution:
Add some TGs to RR to make the system monitorable to the scanner.

First one is a Smartnet digital system. Not sure what type of digital
that is, but it's not P25 which means it's not supported by the scanner.
Same solution: Add some monitorable TGs.

Doing the above both will be usable by Sentinel. If this is not
possible, there is no point in Sentinel showing systems you cannot monitor.

Joe M.

On 9/29/2020 4:57 PM, Wayne Smith wrote:
Uniden friends,

I've been having an issue with the Uniden Sentinel software for a while
now. It concerns two of the systems listed in the CA Trunked section of
Radioreference:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=6&tab=trs

Two of the systems listed in RadioReference don't show up in the
Sentinel database. They are:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6719

and

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9937

These two are the (relatively old) LA County REACT trunked system and
the (relatively new) Ventura County trunked system. Both of these
systems are consistently missing from the Sentinel weekly download;
however, I can program the systems directly into my SDS 100 and 200
scanners with no problems. There may be other systems like those as well.

I contacted Uniden support in June of this year. They weren't aware of
the issue upon my call. They verified the issue and they said they
would look into it. I've seen no change since then.

Both of these systems appear in the download for the EZ-Scan software
used for Whistler scanners and program automatically just fine.

Can anybody confirm this anomaly? Or perhaps the systems are "somewhere
else" in the Sentinel database other than where they would ordinarily
appear? Or am I doing something wrong? Does this occur, routinely or
intermittently, with other systems, trunked or conventional? Or?

Thanks,

Wayne


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Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Evan Platt
 

Isn't SmartZone the old Analog system?
San Francisco is Smartone, and now for the first time I've noticed
there's digital talkgroups listed there...

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=60

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:01 PM Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:

That's easily explained.

Easier one first. The second one has no TGs. Solution:
Add some TGs to RR to make the system monitorable to the scanner.

First one is a Smartnet digital system. Not sure what type of digital
that is, but it's not P25 which means it's not supported by the scanner.
Same solution: Add some monitorable TGs.

Doing the above both will be usable by Sentinel. If this is not
possible, there is no point in Sentinel showing systems you cannot monitor.

Joe M.

On 9/29/2020 4:57 PM, Wayne Smith wrote:
Uniden friends,

I've been having an issue with the Uniden Sentinel software for a while
now. It concerns two of the systems listed in the CA Trunked section of
Radioreference:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=6&tab=trs

Two of the systems listed in RadioReference don't show up in the
Sentinel database. They are:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6719

and

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9937

These two are the (relatively old) LA County REACT trunked system and
the (relatively new) Ventura County trunked system. Both of these
systems are consistently missing from the Sentinel weekly download;
however, I can program the systems directly into my SDS 100 and 200
scanners with no problems. There may be other systems like those as well.

I contacted Uniden support in June of this year. They weren't aware of
the issue upon my call. They verified the issue and they said they
would look into it. I've seen no change since then.

Both of these systems appear in the download for the EZ-Scan software
used for Whistler scanners and program automatically just fine.

Can anybody confirm this anomaly? Or perhaps the systems are "somewhere
else" in the Sentinel database other than where they would ordinarily
appear? Or am I doing something wrong? Does this occur, routinely or
intermittently, with other systems, trunked or conventional? Or?

Thanks,

Wayne


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Re: Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Joe M.
 

That's easily explained.

Easier one first. The second one has no TGs. Solution:
Add some TGs to RR to make the system monitorable to the scanner.

First one is a Smartnet digital system. Not sure what type of digital that is, but it's not P25 which means it's not supported by the scanner. Same solution: Add some monitorable TGs.

Doing the above both will be usable by Sentinel. If this is not possible, there is no point in Sentinel showing systems you cannot monitor.

Joe M.

On 9/29/2020 4:57 PM, Wayne Smith wrote:
Uniden friends,

I've been having an issue with the Uniden Sentinel software for a while
now. It concerns two of the systems listed in the CA Trunked section of
Radioreference:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=6&tab=trs

Two of the systems listed in RadioReference don't show up in the
Sentinel database. They are:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6719

and

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9937

These two are the (relatively old) LA County REACT trunked system and
the (relatively new) Ventura County trunked system. Both of these
systems are consistently missing from the Sentinel weekly download;
however, I can program the systems directly into my SDS 100 and 200
scanners with no problems. There may be other systems like those as well.

I contacted Uniden support in June of this year. They weren't aware of
the issue upon my call. They verified the issue and they said they
would look into it. I've seen no change since then.

Both of these systems appear in the download for the EZ-Scan software
used for Whistler scanners and program automatically just fine.

Can anybody confirm this anomaly? Or perhaps the systems are "somewhere
else" in the Sentinel database other than where they would ordinarily
appear? Or am I doing something wrong? Does this occur, routinely or
intermittently, with other systems, trunked or conventional? Or?

Thanks,

Wayne

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Uniden Sentinel missing some CA Trunked systems?

Wayne Smith
 

Uniden friends,

I've been having an issue with the Uniden Sentinel software for a while now.  It concerns two of the systems listed in the CA Trunked section of Radioreference:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?stid=6&tab=trs

Two of the systems listed in RadioReference don't show up in the Sentinel database.  They are:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6719

and

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9937

These two are the (relatively old) LA County REACT trunked system and the (relatively new) Ventura County trunked system.  Both of these systems are consistently missing from the Sentinel weekly download; however, I can program the systems directly into my SDS 100 and 200 scanners with no problems.  There may be other systems like those as well.

I contacted Uniden support in June of this year.  They weren't aware of the issue upon my call.  They verified the issue and they said they would look into it.  I've seen no change since then.

Both of these systems appear in the download for the EZ-Scan software used for Whistler scanners and program automatically just fine.

Can anybody confirm this anomaly?  Or perhaps the systems are "somewhere else" in the Sentinel database other than where they would ordinarily appear?  Or am I doing something wrong?  Does this occur, routinely or intermittently, with other systems, trunked or conventional?  Or?

Thanks,

Wayne


Re: How To Boost Scanner Antennas

Rich
 

thanks

Rich via iPad

On Sep 11, 2020, at 08:39, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:

And it was all deleted from the archives until it was
re-posted (quoted). The OP has been moderated, too.

List Moderator

On 9/11/2020 9:32 AM, Evan Platt wrote:
So much incorrect information.....

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:28 AM Dora Tamilta via groups.io
<doratamilta@...> wrote:


Re: How To Boost Scanner Antennas

Joe M.
 

And it was all deleted from the archives until it was
re-posted (quoted). The OP has been moderated, too.

List Moderator

On 9/11/2020 9:32 AM, Evan Platt wrote:
So much incorrect information.....

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:28 AM Dora Tamilta via groups.io
<doratamilta@...> wrote:


Re: How To Boost Scanner Antennas

Evan Platt
 

So much incorrect information.....

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:28 AM Dora Tamilta via groups.io
<doratamilta@...> wrote:

How To Boost Scanner Antennas
Scanner antennas receive signals across a wide range of frequencies. Scanner antennas include police scanners, wi-fi scanners, search-and-rescue communication equipment and amateur radio scanners that seek out any signal. Scanner antennas may be used by those who wish to listen in or so that parties like first responders can respond to it. A scanner antenna’s signal reception can be improved by reducing its interference, strengthening its signal, and increasing its sensitivity and range.
Here is how to do it

https://baninii.com/2020/09/10/how-to-boost-scanner-antennas/



Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

azpowells
 

Great to hear this. Stay Safe.

 Wayne P.

On 8/30/2020 11:26 AM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Thanks all for the quick responses. I did install it. All is well. Judy


Re: ARC536 Comments please

John Svensson
 

There are some rally informative you tube videos on using the Sentinel software

 

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Adams via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 17:12
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] ARC536 Comments please

 

As do I , I have an SDS100 and use both Sentinel and ARC software to program with. I have both programs running at the same time while I bump back and forth. Never had an issue. Took me a while to get the feel of Sentinel as its new to me

 

Happy scanning

Bday


On Aug 27, 2020, at 20:57, Joel Kahn <jrkahn@...> wrote:

Marshall,

I use the ARC programs and Sentinel for my HP 1 & 2 radios(ARCPatrol) and my 436HP(ARC436/536). They both have advantages and disadvantages. They reside and play well together on my Windows10 laptop. I frequently have both running at the same time.

 

You need to use Sentinel to update the RR Database in the program and the radio.

 

While it can be done in Sentinel, I find the ARC program easier to create, update and edit my favorite lists.

 

You can download and try the ARC programs for free -limited time and functions.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Joel R Kahn

 

Comme dicté à mon chat et envoyé de mon ordinateur de bureau.
(As dictated to my cat and sent from my desktop computer.)

 

 

 

On Monday, August 24, 2020, 03:14:38 PM EDT, Marshall Tuttle <mtincos@...> wrote:

 

 

I am considering buying the Butel software. Looking for user comments and suggestions.  Will it coexist with Sentinel on a Win 10 PC?  This is my first post and my radio should arrive later this week.  I am in Colorado Springs CO.

Marshall T.


Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

Judy Olson
 

Thanks all for the quick responses. I did install it. All is well. Judy


Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

azpowells
 

Great. Thanks Joe. Be Safe.

Wayne Powell

On 8/30/2020 6:46 AM, Joe M. wrote:
Assuming you mean x36/SDS Sentinel, Latest Version 2.02.01 (2019)

If you mean HP Sentinel, Latest Version 2.03.02 (2014)

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 11:55 PM, azpowells wrote:
Sorry. Sentinel .

  Wayne P.

On 8/29/2020 4:57 PM, Joe M. wrote:
Of .NET or of Sentinel?

.NET doesn't follow the conventional version numbering. For example
you can have 3.5 and 4 installed on the same PC. They are completely
separate programs.

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 3:51 PM, azpowells wrote:
Joe. What is the latest version number ?Thanks. Be Safe.

Wayne Powell

On 8/29/2020 11:13 AM, Joe M. wrote:
2.0? I thought it installed 3.5.

Sentinel was last updated when the digital
upgrades were released (a couple years ago).

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 1:58 PM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET
Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found
instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.




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Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

Joe M.
 

Assuming you mean x36/SDS Sentinel, Latest Version 2.02.01 (2019)

If you mean HP Sentinel, Latest Version 2.03.02 (2014)

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 11:55 PM, azpowells wrote:
Sorry. Sentinel .

Wayne P.

On 8/29/2020 4:57 PM, Joe M. wrote:
Of .NET or of Sentinel?

.NET doesn't follow the conventional version numbering. For example
you can have 3.5 and 4 installed on the same PC. They are completely
separate programs.

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 3:51 PM, azpowells wrote:
Joe. What is the latest version number ?Thanks. Be Safe.

Wayne Powell

On 8/29/2020 11:13 AM, Joe M. wrote:
2.0? I thought it installed 3.5.

Sentinel was last updated when the digital
upgrades were released (a couple years ago).

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 1:58 PM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET
Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found
instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.




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Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi Judy, there should not be any problem at all installing the older versions of .Net Framework.  Lots of software still requires it. 
- Maggie
 

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:58 PM
Subject: [Uniden] Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0
 

Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.


Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

azpowells
 

Sorry. Sentinel .

 Wayne P.

On 8/29/2020 4:57 PM, Joe M. wrote:
Of .NET or of Sentinel?

.NET doesn't follow the conventional version numbering. For example you can have 3.5 and 4 installed on the same PC. They are completely separate programs.

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 3:51 PM, azpowells wrote:
Joe. What is the latest version number ?Thanks. Be Safe.

Wayne Powell

On 8/29/2020 11:13 AM, Joe M. wrote:
2.0? I thought it installed 3.5.

Sentinel was last updated when the digital
upgrades were released (a couple years ago).

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 1:58 PM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET
Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found
instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.




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Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

Bob Turner <n2scj-lists@...>
 

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From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe M.
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:14 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

2.0? I thought it installed 3.5.

Sentinel was last updated when the digital upgrades were released (a couple years ago).

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 1:58 PM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET
Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found
instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.




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Re: ARC536 Comments please

JD
 

You asked for comments regarding ARC Butel so here is mine, altho not what some would like to hear. Really the only major problem I have ever had with a company regarding my scanning hobby. Long story short - I bought the full pro version of ARC500 for my Whistler 1065 radio, basically for the virtual control on my computer. Let me say here that I have bought their product 7 (seven) different times for various scanners and was always satisfied. I ran into a glitch, could not get the virtual radio on my screen no matter how I tried. I contacted Butel, the guy in the Radio Reference forums and outlined my problem. He told me to do what i had already done. I did, and no go, so he said I needed to reinstall my drivers. Done. Nada. Then the guy just actually ignored me. Would not answer private messages. A very demeaning and immature response. I have went with ProScan and immediately regretted not doing so  before. So my comment on ARC/Butel is not so good. Personally I boycott their products now and always suggest ProScan. Compare them yourself. ProScan blows ARC out of the water, price-wise, performance, and the customer service is fantastic. You won't be disappointed,.

On Friday, August 28, 2020, 9:04:44 PM EDT, Jim Adams via groups.io <blastdad51@...> wrote:


As do I , I have an SDS100 and use both Sentinel and ARC software to program with. I have both programs running at the same time while I bump back and forth. Never had an issue. Took me a while to get the feel of Sentinel as its new to me

Happy scanning
Bday


On Aug 27, 2020, at 20:57, Joel Kahn <jrkahn@...> wrote:

Marshall,
I use the ARC programs and Sentinel for my HP 1 & 2 radios(ARCPatrol) and my 436HP(ARC436/536). They both have advantages and disadvantages. They reside and play well together on my Windows10 laptop. I frequently have both running at the same time.

You need to use Sentinel to update the RR Database in the program and the radio.

While it can be done in Sentinel, I find the ARC program easier to create, update and edit my favorite lists.

You can download and try the ARC programs for free -limited time and functions.

Hope this helps.

Joel R Kahn

Comme dicté à mon chat et envoyé de mon ordinateur de bureau.
(As dictated to my cat and sent from my desktop computer.)



On Monday, August 24, 2020, 03:14:38 PM EDT, Marshall Tuttle <mtincos@...> wrote:


I am considering buying the Butel software. Looking for user comments and suggestions.  Will it coexist with Sentinel on a Win 10 PC?  This is my first post and my radio should arrive later this week.  I am in Colorado Springs CO.
Marshall T.


Re: Sentinel and .NET Framework 2.0

Joe M.
 

Of .NET or of Sentinel?

.NET doesn't follow the conventional version numbering. For example you can have 3.5 and 4 installed on the same PC. They are completely separate programs.

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 3:51 PM, azpowells wrote:
Joe. What is the latest version number ?Thanks. Be Safe.

Wayne Powell

On 8/29/2020 11:13 AM, Joe M. wrote:
2.0? I thought it installed 3.5.

Sentinel was last updated when the digital
upgrades were released (a couple years ago).

Joe M.

On 8/29/2020 1:58 PM, Judy Olson via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install Sentinel on my new desktop computer. It wants .NET
Framework 2.0, old technology.
First question: is Sentinel still regularly updating?
Next, can I mess up my new computer installing outdated files? I found
instructions on how to do it. Thanks all.




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