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Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe M.
 

The CEC laws only affect charging (of ANY devices). They no not regulate scanners specifically at all, but scanners are subject to the regulations that effectively ban all non-USB charging. More specifically, they cite that all new equipment designs must not charge from external sources except via USB. Likely the only reason USB is allowed is due to cellphones or they would have banned that, too.

It also only affects home use AFAIK.

Yes, some states have scanner restrictions
and some have exemptions for hams.

Here is a good site for scanner laws:
<<http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scanning_info/scanlaws.htm>>

BTW, Uber has licensed frequencies in some areas.

Joe M.

On 6/10/2020 1:05 AM, clive frazier via groups.io wrote:
Joe:

Could you please explain further what the fruitcakes in California did?
Does that make ANY scanner illegal in California? Only those scanners
that can be charged while in a car? Mobile/base vs. hand held?

Some states have laws that prohibit scanners in a car unless you have a
valid amateur radio license. Do you have a list of those states?

General comment on scanning. Had a week of the usual protests (riots)
here in Orlando. Everything scrambled. Could not listen to anything.
Unless Uniden comes up with a scanner that can decode scrambled voice,
the only thing to listen to will be taxi cabs, but they are all going to
Uber so that means cell phones. I think we have a dying hobby.

Clive, K9FWF


On Monday, June 8, 2020, 03:20:00 AM EDT, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:


Since you are 'down under' you need to review California's laws that
made non-USB charging effectively illegal. Uniden even had to redesign
the BC346XT to make it confirm and the revised model was the BC346XTC (C
for California). In that case the redesign was to remove the charging
capability (it was not possible to change the coaxial jack to USB).

Uniden didn't drop the ball - the ball was stolen by California.

Joe M.

On 6/8/2020 3:05 AM, Doug J wrote:
> Sounds like Uniden has dropped the ball with their build quality, they
> need to lift their game.
>
> They should go back to a separate DC plug for charging, even if it is
> 5V, which is much more robust. Have a USB to DC plug lead.
>
> Then the USB socket on the scanner can be just for data and programming.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug VK2XLJ




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Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Jeff Daugherty
 

MN. Has a scanner law only mobile scanners can be by hams



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-------- Original message --------
From: "clive frazier via groups.io" <clive99w@...>
Date: 6/9/20 10:06 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe: 

Could you please explain further what the fruitcakes in California did? Does that make ANY scanner illegal in California? Only those scanners that can be charged while in a car? Mobile/base vs. hand held? 

Some states have laws that prohibit scanners in a car unless you have a valid amateur radio license. Do you have a list of those states? 

General comment on scanning. Had a week of the usual protests (riots) here in Orlando. Everything scrambled. Could not listen to anything. Unless Uniden comes up with a scanner that can decode scrambled voice, the only thing to listen to will be taxi cabs, but they are all going to Uber so that means cell phones. I think we have a dying hobby. 

Clive, K9FWF


On Monday, June 8, 2020, 03:20:00 AM EDT, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:


Since you are 'down under' you need to review California's laws that
made non-USB charging effectively illegal. Uniden even had to redesign
the BC346XT to make it confirm and the revised model was the BC346XTC (C
for California). In that case the redesign was to remove the charging
capability (it was not possible to change the coaxial jack to USB).

Uniden didn't drop the ball - the ball was stolen by California.

Joe M.

On 6/8/2020 3:05 AM, Doug J wrote:
> Sounds like Uniden has dropped the ball with their build quality, they
> need to lift their game.
>
> They should go back to a separate DC plug for charging, even if it is
> 5V, which is much more robust. Have a USB to DC plug lead.
>
> Then the USB socket on the scanner can be just for data and programming.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug VK2XLJ




Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

clive frazier
 

Joe: 

Could you please explain further what the fruitcakes in California did? Does that make ANY scanner illegal in California? Only those scanners that can be charged while in a car? Mobile/base vs. hand held? 

Some states have laws that prohibit scanners in a car unless you have a valid amateur radio license. Do you have a list of those states? 

General comment on scanning. Had a week of the usual protests (riots) here in Orlando. Everything scrambled. Could not listen to anything. Unless Uniden comes up with a scanner that can decode scrambled voice, the only thing to listen to will be taxi cabs, but they are all going to Uber so that means cell phones. I think we have a dying hobby. 

Clive, K9FWF


On Monday, June 8, 2020, 03:20:00 AM EDT, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:


Since you are 'down under' you need to review California's laws that
made non-USB charging effectively illegal. Uniden even had to redesign
the BC346XT to make it confirm and the revised model was the BC346XTC (C
for California). In that case the redesign was to remove the charging
capability (it was not possible to change the coaxial jack to USB).

Uniden didn't drop the ball - the ball was stolen by California.

Joe M.

On 6/8/2020 3:05 AM, Doug J wrote:
> Sounds like Uniden has dropped the ball with their build quality, they
> need to lift their game.
>
> They should go back to a separate DC plug for charging, even if it is
> 5V, which is much more robust. Have a USB to DC plug lead.
>
> Then the USB socket on the scanner can be just for data and programming.
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug VK2XLJ




Re: Uniden MR8100 Scanner Experts?

RFI-EMI-GUY
 

Glad to see the MR8100 represented in your collection.
Like the artwork, who did it and how?
I would suggest you get a bigger vehicle like a Ford Expedition, but you would probably just fill it with 10 x the radios!


Re: Uniden MR8100 Scanner Experts?

Scott Heath
 

Hello!
I'm sorry I can't help you with your needs but I have an 8100 with the speaker it's it's a GREAT radio! You're going to love yours! Of course it's analog only but it sure scans quickly!! Please keep us updated on your findings with the 8100!! 
 
 
 
 For pictures of my mobile station, go to this link:
                    and also see:
           http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2630240

    Scott Heath  (AF4KK)  


Re: Uniden MR8100 Scanner Experts?

Mike R
 

http://www.repeater-builder.com/uniden/mr8100/mr8100-index.html

May your day be filled with love and light 

On Jun 8, 2020, at 5:52 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY <rhyolite@...> wrote:

I have always wanted one of these and now will soon be the owner of two of these units and seeking information.

I am looking for spare parts.
1) Big rectangular rubber plug for the RS232 port
2) The 90 degree clamp that secures the power and antenna cable at the bottom.
3) Mounting brackets
4) Speaker or Power cords. Really what I am seeking is who made the connectors for these so I can fix up original cables.
5) If you have a scrap radio or the parts please let me know.
6) Service manual. I wan to buy or borrow a copy.
Finally:
There used to be an MR8100 Yahoo Group. Sadly Yahoo torched it. Did someone make a repository?


Uniden MR8100 Scanner Experts?

RFI-EMI-GUY
 

I have always wanted one of these and now will soon be the owner of two of these units and seeking information.

I am looking for spare parts.
1) Big rectangular rubber plug for the RS232 port
2) The 90 degree clamp that secures the power and antenna cable at the bottom.
3) Mounting brackets
4) Speaker or Power cords. Really what I am seeking is who made the connectors for these so I can fix up original cables.
5) If you have a scrap radio or the parts please let me know.
6) Service manual. I wan to buy or borrow a copy.
Finally:
There used to be an MR8100 Yahoo Group. Sadly Yahoo torched it. Did someone make a repository?


Re: 436 vs 100 issue

Joe M.
 

The reason you have been "getting away with it" is because recording is disabled when there are no batteries in the unit, and with recording disabled 99.997% of the corruption odds go away.

Joe M.

On 6/8/2020 2:20 PM, Tim Ferguson wrote:
Hadn’t really thought about that, although I’ve been using it for
several years this way so far without issue.

Tim

On Jun 8, 2020, at 12:33 PM, WA3TOY via groups.io
<arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:



Doing that without batteries can cause it to scramble the memory card
I would not recommend doing that I would recommend putting batteries
in the in the scanner



------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Monday, June 8, 2020 Tim Ferguson <main@Uniden.groups.io> wrote:

I have a BCD436HP I use in our minivan with external antenna that is
connected to a USB port with the batteries removed. It comes on
automatically when I start the vehicle, pauses at the set the time
screen (never got that fixed) and at the screen about which do I want
to use it for, and then starts scanning after about 10 seconds.
Perfect for me as there is no turning it on or off, just adjusting the
volume occasionally. I would like to get my SDS100 to do the same,
but can’t quite seem to get it there. Is this a “fluke” that just
works and can’t be replicated, or the 100 built differently
(rechargeable battery) that it won’t work this way?

Thanks!
Tim
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Re: 436 vs 100 issue

Tim Ferguson
 

Hadn’t really thought about that, although I’ve been using it for several years this way so far without issue.

Tim

On Jun 8, 2020, at 12:33 PM, WA3TOY via groups.io <arswa3toy@...> wrote:



Doing that without batteries can cause it to scramble the memory card I would not recommend doing that I would recommend putting batteries in the in the scanner




On Monday, June 8, 2020 Tim Ferguson <main@Uniden.groups.io> wrote:

I have a BCD436HP I use in our minivan with external antenna that is connected to a USB port with the batteries removed.  It comes on automatically when I start the vehicle, pauses at the set the time screen (never got that fixed) and at the screen about which do I want to use it for, and then starts scanning after about 10 seconds.  Perfect for me as there is no turning it on or off, just adjusting the volume occasionally.  I would like to get my SDS100 to do the same, but can’t quite seem to get it there.  Is this a “fluke” that just works and can’t be replicated, or the 100 built differently (rechargeable battery) that it won’t work this way?

Thanks!
Tim


Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Manlius
 

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 03:19 AM, Joe M. wrote:
“...you need to review California's laws that made non-USB charging effectively illegal.”
We interrupt this thread to bring you the following breaking story:  

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Re: 436 vs 100 issue

Kurt WA3TOY
 

Doing that without batteries can cause it to scramble the memory card I would not recommend doing that I would recommend putting batteries in the in the scanner




On Monday, June 8, 2020 Tim Ferguson <main@Uniden.groups.io> wrote:

I have a BCD436HP I use in our minivan with external antenna that is connected to a USB port with the batteries removed.  It comes on automatically when I start the vehicle, pauses at the set the time screen (never got that fixed) and at the screen about which do I want to use it for, and then starts scanning after about 10 seconds.  Perfect for me as there is no turning it on or off, just adjusting the volume occasionally.  I would like to get my SDS100 to do the same, but can’t quite seem to get it there.  Is this a “fluke” that just works and can’t be replicated, or the 100 built differently (rechargeable battery) that it won’t work this way?

Thanks!
Tim


436 vs 100 issue

Tim Ferguson
 

I have a BCD436HP I use in our minivan with external antenna that is connected to a USB port with the batteries removed. It comes on automatically when I start the vehicle, pauses at the set the time screen (never got that fixed) and at the screen about which do I want to use it for, and then starts scanning after about 10 seconds. Perfect for me as there is no turning it on or off, just adjusting the volume occasionally. I would like to get my SDS100 to do the same, but can’t quite seem to get it there. Is this a “fluke” that just works and can’t be replicated, or the 100 built differently (rechargeable battery) that it won’t work this way?

Thanks!
Tim


Re: Want to Sell My 536

Jan Fine
 

I have a Uniden BCD536HP with the NXDN & DMR upgrades. Comes with everything  that came with it except original box. No problems, scratches, or anything else. Looking for offers. Mail or pickup from SE Florida.

On 6/7/2020 10:31 PM, Joe M. wrote:
Any upgrades? Does it come with all original accessories?

These can be the difference between $300 and $500.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 10:25 PM, Brian O&#39;Brien wrote:
I have a BCD536HP that I've rarely used and was wondering what I should
ask for it...?
Any ideas...


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Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe M.
 

Since you are 'down under' you need to review California's laws that made non-USB charging effectively illegal. Uniden even had to redesign the BC346XT to make it confirm and the revised model was the BC346XTC (C for California). In that case the redesign was to remove the charging capability (it was not possible to change the coaxial jack to USB).

Uniden didn't drop the ball - the ball was stolen by California.

Joe M.

On 6/8/2020 3:05 AM, Doug J wrote:
Sounds like Uniden has dropped the ball with their build quality, they
need to lift their game.

They should go back to a separate DC plug for charging, even if it is
5V, which is much more robust. Have a USB to DC plug lead.

Then the USB socket on the scanner can be just for data and programming.

Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Doug J
 

Sounds like Uniden has dropped the ball with their build quality, they need to lift their game.

They should go back to a separate DC plug for charging, even if it is 5V, which is much more robust. Have a USB to DC plug lead.

Then the USB socket on the scanner can be just for data and programming.




Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of cbm guy <cbmguy2@...>
Sent: Monday, 8 June 2020 3:56 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io>; cbmguy2@... <cbmguy2@...>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS 100 Charging light.
 
From my experience, the issue of whether to charge the SDS100 externally or internally can be a double edged sword.  

For example, the frequent use of a usb cable to charge the battery pack while attached to the radio tends to wear and eventually weaken or break the usb connection on other radios and electronics I've owned. The usb receptacle outlet is not very robust on the SDS100 so I would be very careful.  

On the flip side, constantly removing battery packs to place in the drop in charger is a good option but tends to weaken and break the very fragile stock battery latch door.  When it breaks you need to replace that battery latch door by either sending in to Uniden (not cheap) or use a third party option for a replacement door (which i did and it now the latch is strong and no fears of it breaking.)   I highly recommend that third party option if you need it as the company uses a 3d printer to make a very strong battery latch door. Btw.... I do not have any financial interest in the company nor do I know the proprietor well.  

The only time I charge the SDS100 internal is if I'm travelling and do not have the drop in charger with me. 

My opinions and experience only....


Chan
KB0ECO
Amateur Radio Licensed since 1989



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Joe M." <mch@...>
Date: 6/7/20 12:03 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS 100 Charging light.

Or you can enable the CHARGE WHILE ON
setting and do both at the same time.

Charging externally is always the preferred method.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 12:49 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
> Yes.  You can charge the internal batteries OR you can use that power
> supply to run the radio.
>
> Charging batteries external to the scanner is an option.
>
> Rick NK7I
>
>
> On 6/7/2020 4:46 AM, John Harris wrote:
>> The manual says the charging light will stay on while you are charging
>> the radio, until it gets fully charged. When I turn on the radio the
>> charging light goes off even while using the provided charger. Is that
>> normal?
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Re: Want to Sell My 536

Joe M.
 

Any upgrades? Does it come with all original accessories?

These can be the difference between $300 and $500.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 10:25 PM, Brian O&#39;Brien wrote:
I have a BCD536HP that I've rarely used and was wondering what I should
ask for it...?
Any ideas...

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Want to Sell My 536

Brian O&#39;Brien
 

I have a BCD536HP that I've rarely used and was wondering what I should ask for it...?
Any ideas...


Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe M.
 

Let me clarify that....

There are flags in the unencrypted data that indicate it's encrypted voice data. The data is still unencrypted. Only the voice data is encrypted.

That's how your scanner can tell what TG/RID it is, and that it's encrypted voice, Etc.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 9:01 PM, Joe M. wrote:
There are flags in the data that indicate it's encrypted.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 7:28 PM, Martin Dea wrote:
Questions when a talk group number say encrypted on type 2 Motorola
how does it know it? Or decode it?


Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe M.
 

If you want it to work differently, follow
the instructions given multiple times.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 5:51 PM, John Irvine wrote:
That’s the way mine works.


On Jun 7, 2020, at 9:41 AM, John Harris <jharris58@gmail.com> wrote:

The manual says the charging light will stay on while you are
charging the radio, until it gets fully charged. When I turn on the
radio the charging light goes off even while using the provided
charger. Is that normal?
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Re: SDS 100 Charging light.

Joe M.
 

There are flags in the data that indicate it's encrypted.

Joe M.

On 6/7/2020 7:28 PM, Martin Dea wrote:
Questions when a talk group number say encrypted on type 2 Motorola
how does it know it? Or decode it?

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