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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
Joe Polcari
Lucky you. I live in FL and encryption absolutely ruined my hobby.
From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M." <mch@...>
You could say P25 "ruined it", or digital "ruined it", or narrowbanding "ruined it". Any required newer scanners.
Yes, encryption will ruin it for everyone since upgrades are not legal.
P25 Phase II did not ruin it for me. I purchased a P25 Phase II capable scanner and continue to monitor those areas.
Joe M.
On 5/14/2020 2:50 PM, don robinson via groups.io wrote:
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
Joe M.
You could say P25 "ruined it", or digital "ruined it", or
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narrowbanding "ruined it". Any required newer scanners. Yes, encryption will ruin it for everyone since upgrades are not legal. P25 Phase II did not ruin it for me. I purchased a P25 Phase II capable scanner and continue to monitor those areas. Joe M.
On 5/14/2020 2:50 PM, don robinson via groups.io wrote:
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
don robinson
True: P25 was pushed into the US for interoperability, but also because the phone company took away some radio spectrum many radio agencies had been using, including TV. The government grant to get cities into P25 was not enough to really make it work though at first. P25 began as barely operable, but for 10's of millions of dollars more it could be made to work. There also is annual maintenance, costing cities millions per year as well. That is very lucrative for the providers of P25 systems, but some cities choose not to be on the hook for millions more dollars in annual cost to replace something they have that still works well for them. But, for us little guys, it meant replacing our analog trunking scanners with digital trunking scanners- not cheap either. Phase II ruined it for some of us. Encryption will ruin it for all of us. Stay well, friends. It's not just Motorola. Public safety agencies that are buying digital radios are STRONGLY encouraged to use the P-25 standard in order to maintain inter-operability with their neighbors. To help push that, the federal government has deemed that if you are going to get federal grant money to buy radios, it MUST be P-25 capable. Going into the Way Back machine, when trunking first got started, largely every manufacturer built their own system. None were compatible with each other. Many years ago, it was realized that this was a problem. APCO came together and created the P-25 standard to avoid that problem in the future. Granted that radio systems do not get major updates or replacements on a fast schedule, so it has taken YEARS, but the vast majority of digital radio systems in use in the USA by public safety agencies today are P-25. Of course there are lots of agencies (especially in more rural areas) that are still analog conventional, and likely will be for a long time. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim@...
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
Jim Walls
On 05/11/2020 18:00, James F. Boehner, MD via groups.io wrote:
Looks like I need to correct myself-last two paragraphs:It's not just Motorola. Public safety agencies that are buying digital radios are STRONGLY encouraged to use the P-25 standard in order to maintain inter-operability with their neighbors. To help push that, the federal government has deemed that if you are going to get federal grant money to buy radios, it MUST be P-25 capable. Going into the Way Back machine, when trunking first got started, largely every manufacturer built their own system. None were compatible with each other. Many years ago, it was realized that this was a problem. APCO came together and created the P-25 standard to avoid that problem in the future. Granted that radio systems do not get major updates or replacements on a fast schedule, so it has taken YEARS, but the vast majority of digital radio systems in use in the USA by public safety agencies today are P-25. Of course there are lots of agencies (especially in more rural areas) that are still analog conventional, and likely will be for a long time. -- 73 ------------------------------------- Jim Walls - K6CCC jim@...
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Re: Searching BCD436HP database
Joel Kahn
You can use the Sentinel program to look at what is programmed in each of your favorite lists. If you find duplicate talk groups, you can "avoid" (lock out) one of them, or you can edit the favorite list and delete the duplicates. Joel R Kahn Comme dicté à mon chat et envoyé de mon Android. (As dictated to my cat and sent from my Android.)
On Monday, May 11, 2020, 10:00:17 AM EDT, sckeith@... <sckeith@...> wrote:
New to the BCD436HP and I was looking but didn't finding anything. Is there a way to search through the scanner database to look for duplicate frequencies? Thanks
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Re: Which one?
KA9QJG
The BC-246 Is a Great little Scanner I was forced to buy the Expensive SDS-100 To hear My Local PD/FD ...On Mot Phase 2 . I can you this The 246 Is Much Much better on Close Call and VHF/UHF
Happy Scanning
Don KA9QJG
From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of (Maggie/Tom O’Connor)
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:01 PM To: main@Uniden.groups.io Subject: Re: [Uniden] Which one?
+1 for the BC246!!! Great for analog Trunked AND pretty good on UHF and not so bad on Low Band either! Mine ranks right up there with my BCD346!! Reception is def better, but not as many features, and obviously no digital. It’s my go-to though!
I have a BC246 which works great for trunked analog and is no longer made. If I was going to buy new one today, it would be a BCD325P2.
Robert Wichert PEng LEED APHERS I/II 2016/2019 #CC2006186Office: +1 916 966 9060Mobile: +1 916 712 4481On 5/11/2020 5:45 PM, pcbutts1 via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Which one?
Maggie O'Connor
+1 for the BC246!!! Great for analog Trunked AND pretty good on UHF and not
so bad on Low Band either! Mine ranks right up there with my BCD346!!
Reception is def better, but not as many features, and obviously no
digital. It’s my go-to though!
I have a BC246 which works great for trunked analog and is no longer made. If I was going to buy new one today, it would be a BCD325P2.
Robert Wichert PEng LEED AP HERS I/II 2016/2019 #CC2006186 Office: +1 916 966 9060 Mobile: +1 916 712 4481 On 5/11/2020 5:45 PM, pcbutts1 via groups.io
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Re: Thanks!
Joe M.
I should have specified Uniden America. :-)
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On 5/12/2020 4:25 PM, Anton Romirer wrote:
In New Zealand and Australia they do...
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Re: Thanks!
Anton Romirer <polariceskiwi@...>
In New Zealand and Australia they do... their full range!
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 02:50, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote: Uniden (Bearcat) does not sell scanners directly to consumers.
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Re: Searching BCD436HP database
Steve VE4FX
I use radioreference a lot and think it's very good but I also add a lot of channels manually from finding stuff while doing searches. I though a search function would be good to avoid duplication on my part
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Re: Thanks!
Joe M.
No problem. I knew it wasn't Uniden direct.
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The prices are lower on the Uniden site for upgrades. (which they do sell direct) The dealers have to take time to enter the codes, so that is why they charge more. If you really don't want to do that yourself, that would be a viable option. Joe M.
On 5/12/2020 10:58 AM, harvey morse wrote:
Correction, Joe: _Bearcat Warehouse_ which I referred to as “Bearcat”.
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Re: Thanks!
harvey morse
Correction, Joe: Bearcat Warehouse which I referred to as “Bearcat”. Sorry.
Harvey K1DJG
From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M. via groups.io" <mch@...>
Uniden (Bearcat) does not sell scanners directly to consumers.
Joe M.
On 5/12/2020 10:40 AM, harvey morse wrote:
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Re: Thanks!
Joe M.
Uniden (Bearcat) does not sell scanners directly to consumers.
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On 5/12/2020 10:40 AM, harvey morse wrote:
I did order my SDS100 from Bearcat, and yes, they are $75 per upgrade. I
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Re: Thanks!
harvey morse
I did order my SDS100 from Bearcat, and yes, they are $75 per upgrade. I am going to hold off purchasing the upgrades now, as several of you have given me other sources of acquiring them if needed at a lesser cost, but I am going to let them program several counties that I need to listen to and see what difference there is if any, to a zip code selection. Thanks to all who were kind enough to assist me with your responses. Now it’s a waiting game until Bearcat has them back in stock.
Harvey K1DJG
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
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Re: Which one?
pcbutts1
I drive all over Los Angeles county Orange County San Bernardino County and kern county but mainly la.
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FW: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
Scanner1143
Edward Maikranze, I stated and as I stated , IF IT IS A HARRIS P25 PII DIGITAL PROVOICE THEY ARE ENCRYPTED. Most all States, Counties and Cities are going to the Phase II digital scanners. For that reason. They can be encrypted at will. But my statement was if it was a Harris Radio Phase II
I had and still do have a BCD996P2 that I updated myself with DMR and was able to receive the City of Mobile, Al For a whole 5 weeks to they threw the switch and went to the Harris Radio System P25 Phase II Encrypted.
I’m not trying to step on you. I am only explain what happened to me and this area.
Thanks and be Sage,
Thomas
From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Maikranz
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@uniden.groups.io Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
ProVoice and encryption are not one in the same. Unencrypted ProVoice can be monitored in the Uniden scanners via an upgrade, just like DMR and NXDN On May 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Scanner1143 <scanner1143@...> wrote:
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Re: Which one?
Stormin Norman
My money would go to the Uniden SDS 100.
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Re: Which one?
John Shaffer
Call Bearcat Warehouse, 1-877-568-7226 and they will look at your location to determine what frequencies and service types are and give you some options. John J. Shaffer
On Monday, May 11, 2020, 08:45:36 PM EDT, pcbutts1 via groups.io <pcbutts1@...> wrote:
I will be looking in the near future to buy a new handheld scanner, what’s the best new one out there? And will my stimulus check cover it.
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?
James F. Boehner, MD
Looks like I need to correct myself-last two paragraphs:
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1) Motorola sells "mission critical" radios such as the APX series that uses P25 for public safety and when not encrypted, can be monitored by your scanner without upgrades. 2) Be sure to UPDATE your scanner with BCDx36HP sentinel.... Sorry, my proof reading prior to sending failed me. '73 de JIM N2ZZ
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From: James F. Boehner MD [mailto:jboehner01@...] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:44 PM To: main@Uniden.groups.io Subject: SDS100 Upgrades? Harvey, I have just caught up on my e-mails, and hopefully I can answer your question-although I'm certain that I will receive a lot of corrections. First, you did the right thing by ordering the scanner without the upgrades. When you register your scanner on https://my.uniden.com you can purchase the upgrades for a more reasonable price. If I remember, the upgrades are $50-60 and you can do them yourself. Those that sell you the scanner are charging you to do it, and they do keep a reasonable profit for their trouble. Second, do some research and see if the three mode upgrades are in your area. www.radioreference.com has good information. My guess is that DMR will be the most popular, NXDN next, and ProVoice third. Regardless of any mode, those agency frequencies/talkgroups that are encrypted cannot be monitored on a scanner. Now to your primary question. Should you have one or more of the upgrades and you enter your zip, your scanner WILL monitor those agencies, should the information in the scanner be correct, and you have the correct "service types" selected. By default, many of the emergency/public service "service types" are already selected, but they will rarely be the ones that require the upgrades. Look through the other service types in the menu to see if anything interests you. Motorola has severely discouraged the use of their DMR radios (XPR series) to public safety or what they call "mission critical" radios. They strongly encourage the use of their P25 radios, such as the APX series. You scanner should be able to monitor them right out of the box (after you enter your zip code). As long as those agencies are not encrypted, you should be able to monitor them without the upgrades. Be sure you upgrade your scanner with BCDx36HP Sentinel. There are weekly updates that come out every Monday, generally. Enjoy scanning! '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:44 PM To: main@uniden.groups.io Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades? Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question- If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned? Thanks, K1DJG CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED. PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION. On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:
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