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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

David Serio
 

Hi Ean, thanks for pointing out that site. I have used that before and found a lot of systems there weren't in the RR database. The reason I pointed the OP, Harvey, to the RR database is he mentioned he only wants to enter a zip code and scan, not program systems not in the RR database into the scanner. 
SDS100 Upgrades?

James F. Boehner, MD
 

Harvey,

I have just caught up on my e-mails, and hopefully I can answer your question-although I'm certain that I will receive a lot of corrections.

First, you did the right thing by ordering the scanner without the upgrades. When you register your scanner on https://my.uniden.com you can purchase the upgrades for a more reasonable price. If I remember, the upgrades are $50-60 and you can do them yourself. Those that sell you the scanner are charging you to do it, and they do keep a reasonable profit for their trouble.

Second, do some research and see if the three mode upgrades are in your area. www.radioreference.com has good information. My guess is that DMR will be the most popular, NXDN next, and ProVoice third. Regardless of any mode, those agency frequencies/talkgroups that are encrypted cannot be monitored on a scanner.

Now to your primary question. Should you have one or more of the upgrades and you enter your zip, your scanner WILL monitor those agencies, should the information in the scanner be correct, and you have the correct "service types" selected. By default, many of the emergency/public service "service types" are already selected, but they will rarely be the ones that require the upgrades. Look through the other service types in the menu to see if anything interests you.

Motorola has severely discouraged the use of their DMR radios (XPR series) to public safety or what they call "mission critical" radios. They strongly encourage the use of their P25 radios, such as the APX series. You scanner should be able to monitor them right out of the box (after you enter your zip code). As long as those agencies are not encrypted, you should be able to monitor them without the upgrades.

Be sure you upgrade your scanner with BCDx36HP Sentinel. There are weekly updates that come out every Monday, generally.

Enjoy scanning!

'73 de JIM N2ZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:44 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED.
PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE
OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION.







On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates. I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades. There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to. I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

almarote <wa1lbg@...>
 

In July of 2018 I purchased all three updates for my SDS100 from Uniden. Vendors are too expensive. The prices I paid were the same as when I bought my 436 three years previous and my 536 two years previous. I just checked the receipts: DMR... $60.00 NXDN... $50.00 ProVoice... $49,99. So, unless Uniden has raised the prices that’s what they should be. Check when you get your radio.

al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Walls
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

almarote <wa1lbg@...>
 

Like this answer. Short and sweet.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe M.
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:37 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

If they are in the RR database, yes.

Joe M.

On 5/11/2020 6:44 PM, harvey morse wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED.
PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE
OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION.







On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates. I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades. There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to. I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

almarote <wa1lbg@...>
 

Correct.  I monitor several systems that are ProVoice and works fine.  They are not encrypted, of course.

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Maikranz
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:42 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

ProVoice and encryption are not one in the same. 

Unencrypted ProVoice can be monitored in the Uniden scanners via an upgrade, just like DMR and NXDN



On May 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Scanner1143 <scanner1143@...> wrote:



If you are trying to listen to a Harris (name of the radio manufacture) ProVoice,

Then NO!

There is no Radio made that can decrypt it. It is Encrypted. “Unless the User of that system opens it up.”

For instance. Where I live is in Mobile County Alabama

At one time The City of Mobile had all its channels blocked by encryption.

They now have a few of those opened up so you can hear a little.

But within the County there are 7 other Cities that use the same system.

All of them are completely encrypted……….

 

Thomas

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

But if you had the three upgrades, would you be able to monitor them with a zip code search?

K1DJG

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "almarote via groups.io" <wa1lbg@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2020 at 2:53 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

You don’t need an upgrade for P25.  The three upgrades are DMR, NXDN and ProVoice.  My area has systems that use all three.  Some law enforcement and fire/rescue in my area use ProVoice.

 

al

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:26 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

That link was very helpful! If I had those upgrades installed, and I selected my area by zip code on the SDS100, would systems operating in DMR, NDXN and P25 be automatically monitored or would additional programing be required to receive them?

 

Thanks, this has been a big help.

 

K1DJG

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Evan Platt via groups.io" <evan@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2020 at 2:16 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

There's a lot more than what's on RR..

DMR, NDXN and P25 that wasn't in RR.

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:13 AM David Serio <davidserio@...> wrote:

 

Look at Radio Reference for your area. See if there are systems that use DMR, etc that you want to listen to. If not, don't worry about them. You can always upgrade later if you find you want to listen to them.

 

 

 

 

 
Re: Which one?

Joe M.
 

That depends on your needs. If you have simulcast systems in your area, the SDS100 is the way to go. If not, the BCD436HP might be better. If size is a concern, the BCD325P2 might be what you want.

Joe M.

On 5/11/2020 8:45 PM, pcbutts1 via groups.io wrote:
I will be looking in the near future to buy a new handheld scanner,
what’s the best new one out there? And will my stimulus check cover it.
Re: Which one?

pcbutts1
 

I had a BCD396T Years ago but I can’t find it now. It’s probably in box number 99 out of 100. It would be quicker to just get a new one.

 

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> On Behalf Of robertwichert
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:24 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Which one?

 

I have a BC246 which works great for trunked analog and is no longer made.  If I was going to buy new one today, it would be a BCD325P2.

 

Robert Wichert 
PEng   LEED AP
HERS I/II 2016/2019 #CC2006186
Office: +1 916 966 9060
Mobile: +1 916 712 4481

On 5/11/2020 5:45 PM, pcbutts1 via groups.io wrote:

I will be looking in the near future to buy a new handheld scanner, what’s the best new one out there? And will my stimulus check cover it.

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Which one?

robertwichert
 

I have a BC246 which works great for trunked analog and is no longer made.  If I was going to buy new one today, it would be a BCD325P2.


Robert Wichert 
PEng   LEED AP
HERS I/II 2016/2019 #CC2006186
Office: +1 916 966 9060
Mobile: +1 916 712 4481
On 5/11/2020 5:45 PM, pcbutts1 via groups.io wrote:

I will be looking in the near future to buy a new handheld scanner, what’s the best new one out there? And will my stimulus check cover it.

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com

Which one?

pcbutts1
 

I will be looking in the near future to buy a new handheld scanner, what’s the best new one out there? And will my stimulus check cover it.

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

alex
 



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 3:44 PM harvey morse <harvey@...> wrote:
Ladies and  xGentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED.
PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE
OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION.







> On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim=k6ccc.org@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates.  I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades.  There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
> I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.
>
> Jim Walls
> K6CCC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
> To: main@uniden.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
>
> So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
> unless you're sitting with the scanner..
>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:
>>
>> I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
>> To: main@uniden.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
>>
>> Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.
>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guess again.  I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade.  I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Walls
>>> K6CCC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
>>>
>>> Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price.  One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that).  Not sure which is which as far as price.  It’s been a while.  The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS.  I’ve had my for two years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?
>>>
>>>
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>>> I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just
>>>
>>> monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,
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>>> K1DJG
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Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Joe M.
 

If they are in the RR database, yes.

Joe M.

On 5/11/2020 6:44 PM, harvey morse wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED.
PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE
OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION.







On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates. I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades. There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to. I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Rick NK7I
 

The upgrades only affect how to decode the digital audio, not the frequency used.

So yes, the zip code and/or GPS based programming will continue to work.  Those are confined to frequency, range and your location (and service types chosen).

Rick


On 5/11/2020 3:44 PM, harvey morse wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

CONFIDENTIAL, PRIVATE & PRIVILEGED. 
PLEASE DO NOT REPRODUCE
OR FORWARD WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION.








On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates.  I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades.  There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to.  I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again.  I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade.  I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price.  One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that).  Not sure which is which as far as price.  It’s been a while.  The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS.  I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG

Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

bob_peloquin
 

The answer is "Only the ones IN THE USER-CONTRIBUTED DATABASE".  So if there's a system using NXDN or DMR in your area that's not listed at radioreference.com (which is quite likely with NXDN and DMR systems) then no, you will not receive it by entering your zip code.  Location based scanning is a subtractive system.  It starts with many thousands of known systems and pares the list down by location and range settings.  But if the data isn't in the supplied database, it won't magically find them for you.  You can, however, put the data into your own private database using Sentinel software to create your own favorites list with the stuff that radioreference.com doesn't know about (if you find it elsewhere).

Bob - W1TAB
RR db admin (Massachusetts)

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:44 PM harvey morse <harvey@...> wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

harvey morse
 

Ladies and Gentlemen: Your responses have been extremely informative yet nobody has answered my one primary question-

If I purchase all of the available upgrades for the SDS100, and I enter a zip code to monitor it, will the agencies added by the DMR, NXDN and Provoice, IF EXISTENT IN MY AREA, will be received without any further programming on my part when the zip code is scanned?

Thanks,

K1DJG

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On May 11, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Jim Walls via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates. I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades. There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to. I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Jim Walls
 

I'm not the one who was asking about doing the updates. I also bought my SDS100 without any of the upgrades. There is no ProVoice around here, and although there is LOTS of DMR, there is not really any that I care to listen to. I will likely add NXDN somewhere down the road when more railroad moves to NXDN - what I ride to work is still all analog.
I bought my SDS100 for P25 phase 2 primarily.

Jim Walls
K6CCC

-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:42
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Evan Platt
 

So wait until you get home. I mean, you can't do the upgrade anyway
unless you're sitting with the scanner..

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Edward Maikranz <maikranze@...>
 

ProVoice and encryption are not one in the same. 
Unencrypted ProVoice can be monitored in the Uniden scanners via an upgrade, just like DMR and NXDN


On May 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Scanner1143 <scanner1143@...> wrote:



If you are trying to listen to a Harris (name of the radio manufacture) ProVoice,

Then NO!

There is no Radio made that can decrypt it. It is Encrypted. “Unless the User of that system opens it up.”

For instance. Where I live is in Mobile County Alabama

At one time The City of Mobile had all its channels blocked by encryption.

They now have a few of those opened up so you can hear a little.

But within the County there are 7 other Cities that use the same system.

All of them are completely encrypted……….

 

Thomas

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

But if you had the three upgrades, would you be able to monitor them with a zip code search?

K1DJG

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "almarote via groups.io" <wa1lbg@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2020 at 2:53 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

You don’t need an upgrade for P25.  The three upgrades are DMR, NXDN and ProVoice.  My area has systems that use all three.  Some law enforcement and fire/rescue in my area use ProVoice.

 

al

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:26 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

That link was very helpful! If I had those upgrades installed, and I selected my area by zip code on the SDS100, would systems operating in DMR, NDXN and P25 be automatically monitored or would additional programing be required to receive them?

 

Thanks, this has been a big help.

 

K1DJG

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Evan Platt via groups.io" <evan@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2020 at 2:16 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

 

There's a lot more than what's on RR..

DMR, NDXN and P25 that wasn't in RR.

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:13 AM David Serio <davidserio@...> wrote:

 

Look at Radio Reference for your area. See if there are systems that use DMR, etc that you want to listen to. If not, don't worry about them. You can always upgrade later if you find you want to listen to them.

 

 

 

 

 
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Jim Walls
 

I could not do that here because Uniden will not even give you a price without the serial number of the scanner you want to update - and it's at home, and I'm not.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: "Evan Platt" <evan@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 13:32
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Evan Platt
 

Why go to a vendor? They're making a profit from you. Go to Uniden direct.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:25 PM Jim Walls <jim@...> wrote:

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC



-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Jim Walls
 

Guess again. I just checked about a half dozen vendors for the SDS100 and all that I checked except one were charging $75.00 for each upgrade. I did find one that had different prices: $99.99 for DMR, $79.99 for ProVoice, and $69.99 for NXDN.


Jim Walls
K6CCC

-----Original Message-----
From: "almarote" <wa1lbg@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:15
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?

Unless there has been a price increase on the upgrades, they are a bit less than $75 each and not the same price. One is $60, another is $50, another is $49.xx (.95 or .99, something like that). Not sure which is which as far as price. It’s been a while. The SDS100 is a great radio for digital stuff, especially if you have it set up with GPS. I’ve had my for two years.



From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of harvey morse
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS100 Upgrades?



I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG
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