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Re: Searching BCD436HP database

Joe M.
 

You can still do that with current models. (conventional only)

Joe M.

On 5/11/2020 1:45 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
In the old days, multiple entries was a method used to fake 'priority'
of some channels, just put them into more spots to hear them faster, but
now we deal with lists, entirely different.


Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

Evan Platt
 

The upgrades I thought were $50?

Depends if you need them. There's a lot of NXDN and DMR near me, so
the upgrades were worth it.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:02 AM harvey morse <harvey@...> wrote:

I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,



K1DJG


Re: SDS100 Upgrades?

harvey morse
 

I just ordered an SDS100, without the optional DMR and two other optional upgrades due to their expense of $75 each. Am I making a mistake? I am not a “programmer” or “techie” user. I just

monitor the local agencies in my community as I am part of our Emergency Management Team. Thanks,

 

K1DJG


Re: Searching BCD436HP database

Rick NK7I
 

In the old days, multiple entries was a method used to fake 'priority' of some channels, just put them into more spots to hear them faster, but now we deal with lists, entirely different.

There may be some duplication of frequencies when you group your favorites as counties, if there is a wider area system being monitored.  Each such group enabled would cause duplication.  Some of those systems may even cross state lines as well (i.e. Yellowstone Nat'l Park is in three states, several counties).  That should cause no listening 'harm' in most cases, unless they are particularly chatty, which questions their need to be heard (avoid, repeat as needed).

It is doubtful that Sentinel will filter out duplicates in these cases, because it doesn't know which favorite you'll use at any moment.  Likewise, a scanner won't either.

(A truly 'smart' scanner wouldn't program favorite lists as frequencies, but as hooks into the full database, so that when the database is updated, all the favorites update without user intervention.  Then include what was manually added.)

I appreciate the efforts of RR and the admin staff, they do a terrific job.  Not to hijack this thread but I would still like to see a RR database sort posted for all the frequencies used by federal agencies grouped together by discipline (BLM, BIA, NFS, NPS, USFS).  Then include that database sort, into Sentinel outside the current state lists (make a Fed list in addition to state, not break it to only within the state/territory).  It would greatly simplify programming for 'fire season'.

The reason is that traveling crews/equipment often utilize their 'home' channels, no matter where they are working (fire crews, aircraft, strike teams) and those home channels are not listed as local, so wouldn't currently be included for programming.  Having all known channels for an agency would make for simpler programming without the user digging through every possible place they'd come from.

Thanks!

Rick NK7I



On 5/11/2020 8:45 AM, ron ski via groups.io wrote:
Sometimes people can get frequencies and talkgroups interchanged, they are different as we know.

On the radioreference admin side as I'm an admin, if there are duplicate talkgroups in the same system, it will 'flag' these and we will know.

Frequencies; likely will be duplicated, but you have to take note if they have different PL-DPL's. If they are the same frequencies and PL-DPL's in the same city or county, send a submission to radioreference on the frequency page in question to get it looked into and/or corrected.

In Michigan I have gone through every county in the state and fixed and removed duplicated frequencies I think last year.
They do exist, but likely not in MI. :)

On 5/11/2020 9:54 AM, sckeith@... wrote:
New to the BCD436HP and I was looking but didn't finding anything. Is there a way to search through the scanner database to look for duplicate frequencies?

Thanks


Re: Searching BCD436HP database

ron ski
 

Sometimes people can get frequencies and talkgroups interchanged, they are different as we know.

On the radioreference admin side as I'm an admin, if there are duplicate talkgroups in the same system, it will 'flag' these and we will know.

Frequencies; likely will be duplicated, but you have to take note if they have different PL-DPL's. If they are the same frequencies and PL-DPL's in the same city or county, send a submission to radioreference on the frequency page in question to get it looked into and/or corrected.

In Michigan I have gone through every county in the state and fixed and removed duplicated frequencies I think last year.
They do exist, but likely not in MI. :)

On 5/11/2020 9:54 AM, sckeith@... wrote:
New to the BCD436HP and I was looking but didn't finding anything. Is there a way to search through the scanner database to look for duplicate frequencies?

Thanks


Searching BCD436HP database

Steve VE4FX
 

New to the BCD436HP and I was looking but didn't finding anything. Is there a way to search through the scanner database to look for duplicate frequencies?

Thanks


Re: SDS100 Questions.

richardayisi44@...
 

Am grateful for your reply Joe
Richard.


Re: SDS100 Questions.

Joe M.
 

1. Yes - it can hold more/longer recordings.

2. The max is at least 128GB. I've never actually tried 256GB.

2A. The official spec'ed max is 32GB.

3. Are you using SIMPLE MODE? (not sure what 'name 1' is)

4. I just copy-n-paste into Sentinel.

Joe M.

On 5/7/2020 12:27 PM, richardayisi44@... wrote:

SD card: Would there be an advantage to using a higher capacity card? If
so, what is the maximum you can use?

Screen setup: One thing I would to see is larger font size for user id
name. I have seen the option for name1, etc to accommodate longer names,
but would like for larger font.

Import/Export user id info: Is there a way to import/export user Id/name
from spread sheet or .text file?
Richard


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SDS100 Questions.

richardayisi44@...
 


SD card: Would there be an advantage to using a higher capacity card? If so, what is the maximum you can use?

Screen setup: One thing I would to see is larger font size for user id name. I have seen the option for name1, etc to accommodate longer names, but would like for larger font.

Import/Export user id info: Is there a way to import/export user Id/name from spread sheet or .text file?
Richard


Re: Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

Hi Robert
Is the problem resolved
Carl


Re: Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

Joe M.
 

So it *was* going to Close Call.

Joe M.

On 4/29/2020 4:27 AM, Carl Moon via groups.io wrote:
I have ran into problems with my sds100 cutting out in the middle of a
conversation a lot, not to go to a close call. It would just mute and
start again. I couldn’t find anything on how to fix it and it was
annoying... I found that turning off Close Call is the fix to this
problem. So if you are running into this problem, give it try and see if
that helps out like it did for mine.
Carl

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Re: Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

Carl Moon <carl.moon@...>
 

I have ran into problems with my sds100 cutting out in the middle of a conversation a lot, not to go to a close call. It would just mute and start again. I couldn’t find anything on how to fix it and it was annoying... I found that turning off Close Call is the fix to this problem. So if you are running into this problem, give it try and see if that helps out like it did for mine. 
Carl


Re: Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

John Svensson
 

There are some really good tutorial videos on YOU TUBE showing how to make favorites lists, lots of info there

 

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> On Behalf Of robert johnson
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 09:22
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

 

Its definitely an issue with the scanner - Bought it new a few years ago - Nobody has been inside - Close Call / Weather Alerts / are off - Priority Channels may have something to do with it Unsure

Thanks for all the replies - I'll get it fixed sometime

Rob United Kingdom..

 

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From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of Rick Bates, NK7I <Rick.NK7I@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:13:47 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Uniden BCT15X - Cutting out on weak signals!

 

Robert,

There are a few basic reasons that the signal can cut out.  Here are some (not in any order)...

1)  It's THAT weak.

2)  The squelch is too restricted.

3)  If it uses CTCSS and it's weak, the receiver may not capture enough audio to allow an open squelch (try disabling CTCSS).

4)  A local transmitter on/near the frequency wanted is blocking what you want to hear.  This may be simply near the frequency of interest but strong enough that the AGC (part of the receiver chain) dials down the sensitivity (it can't manage signals too loud otherwise).

5)  The bandwidth of the signal may exceed the setting of the receiver, i.e. you're listening in NFM but the signal is WFM and it's going out of the bandpass of the receiver.

6)  Local noise sources (LED lights, neon lights, wall wart power cubes, many electronics) may cause interference.

If there is a pattern to the dropping out, that may assist in knowing the reason.

One quick test, try another receiver and see if it continues to drop out.

A pre-amplifier at the antenna may boost the signals (and noise sources) well enough to help, BUT if you're also hearing very strong signals, it can be overdriven too (swamped is the usual term).  It can also be useful to overcome line loss in the antenna feed (which is why you put a receiver pre-amp AT the antenna).

If it's something you need to hear more consistently, a directional antenna may help (at the cost of less hearing in other directions).  Using a directional antenna, one 'listens' in that direction and they tend to null out noise sources in the other directions.

Using a higher gain antenna for that band may also be useful.

Good luck,
Rick NK7I

 

On 4/18/2020 8:25 AM, robert johnson wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone help me - I own a Uniden BCT15X

Strong signal are great but the more distance weaker signals cut in and out - Has anybody else had this issue? Its not the antenna or coax as it's been checked on a MFJ Analyser - Is there a way of getting rid of the weak signal cutting out? I bought the scanner from new - This issue is really annoying - Any ideas will be much appreciated

73 Robert United Kingdom


Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Rick NK7I
 

There may not be a tone, by system change or database error.

It’ll continue to hear as is, but it would be helpful to keep the database accurate. Glad you’re on top of it.

Rick NK7I

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Tim Ferguson <timlferg@...> wrote:

It does work with the search mode, now to catch it when there’s a broadcast to get the PL.

Tim


Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Tim Ferguson
 

It does work with the search mode, now to catch it when there’s a broadcast to get the PL.

Tim

On Apr 25, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I <Rick.NK7I@...> wrote:



Have you tried turning the CTCSS detect off, or put it into search mode for a tone for that entry?

If you use search, it will display the tone and if it's different, you can email RR to post an updated tone.

Rick NK7I


On 4/21/2020 9:54 AM, Tim Ferguson wrote:
	I’m rather perplexed and am hoping for some assistance from those who truly understand scanning today.  I live in a city located at the corner of four counties which I have programmed into my 436HP, 536HP, and SDS100.  Yet, and this is the issue, I can receive fire calls from neighboring Clinton County on 151.415 on my 1990’s Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT handheld with just a short antenna but cannot receive the same on any of the above scanners programmed using the RR database.  The appropriate Service Types have been enabled, and the two 536HP’s are connected to outside antennas on a 40-foot TV tower.

	For reference, referring to USA>Illinois>Clinton>County Systems>Clinton>Clinton County-ETSB/911 in Radio Reference.

Thanks,
Tim





Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Rick NK7I
 

Or use the priority feature(s) of the scanner instant the things you want/need to hear more. 

Rick NK7I

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

On Apr 22, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:



> Even the older scanners did not land on a frequency fast if the scan list was big enough....

Even with my newer scanner, since there is plenty of room, I put the frequencies I'm concerned with in multiple times with other frequencies in between. Then you have a better chance it will catch what you need. I don't know of any reason you only have to use a frequency only once.  : )

Mick

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Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

> Even the older scanners did not land on a frequency fast if the scan list was big enough....

Even with my newer scanner, since there is plenty of room, I put the frequencies I'm concerned with in multiple times with other frequencies in between. Then you have a better chance it will catch what you need. I don't know of any reason you only have to use a frequency only once.  : )

Mick

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Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

John Lewis
 

Can anyone tell me how to delay i have the 436hp 
John wd4lew

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:32 AM, Steve Garwood
<n0czv@...> wrote:
Tim,
I am experiencing a similar situation.  I think it’s based more on the number of frequencies/systems.  Given enough time, the SDS200 will eventually find the local transmission if it is long enough.  My issue is trying to get the scanner to just scan a short favorites list.  I don’t understand the process to set up the one touch favorite key even after reading the manual.  It would be nice if I could get it to not scan the database.
Even the older scanners did not land on a frequency fast if the scan list was big enough....

Steve
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 13:53, Tim Ferguson <tferg53@...> wrote:
>
>     I’m rather perplexed and am hoping for some assistance from those who truly understand scanning today.  I live in a city located at the corner of four counties which I have programmed into my 436HP, 536HP, and SDS100.  Yet, and this is the issue, I can receive fire calls from neighboring Clinton County on 151.415 on my 1990’s Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT handheld with just a short antenna but cannot receive the same on any of the above scanners programmed using the RR database.  The appropriate Service Types have been enabled, and the two 536HP’s are connected to outside antennas on a 40-foot TV tower.
>
>    For reference, referring to USA>Illinois>Clinton>County Systems>Clinton>Clinton County-ETSB/911 in Radio Reference.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
>
>




Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Bryan King
 

To shut off data base scan push the squelch/menu knob , set scan selection enter, select lists to monitor enter, full database enter

On Apr 22, 2020, at 05:32, Steve Garwood <n0czv@...> wrote:

Tim,
I am experiencing a similar situation. I think it’s based more on the number of frequencies/systems. Given enough time, the SDS200 will eventually find the local transmission if it is long enough. My issue is trying to get the scanner to just scan a short favorites list. I don’t understand the process to set up the one touch favorite key even after reading the manual. It would be nice if I could get it to not scan the database.
Even the older scanners did not land on a frequency fast if the scan list was big enough....

Steve
On Apr 21, 2020, at 13:53, Tim Ferguson <tferg53@...> wrote:

 I’m rather perplexed and am hoping for some assistance from those who truly understand scanning today. I live in a city located at the corner of four counties which I have programmed into my 436HP, 536HP, and SDS100. Yet, and this is the issue, I can receive fire calls from neighboring Clinton County on 151.415 on my 1990’s Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT handheld with just a short antenna but cannot receive the same on any of the above scanners programmed using the RR database. The appropriate Service Types have been enabled, and the two 536HP’s are connected to outside antennas on a 40-foot TV tower.

For reference, referring to USA>Illinois>Clinton>County Systems>Clinton>Clinton County-ETSB/911 in Radio Reference.

Thanks,
Tim






Re: Old Bearcat Works Better

Steve Garwood
 

Tim,
I am experiencing a similar situation. I think it’s based more on the number of frequencies/systems. Given enough time, the SDS200 will eventually find the local transmission if it is long enough. My issue is trying to get the scanner to just scan a short favorites list. I don’t understand the process to set up the one touch favorite key even after reading the manual. It would be nice if I could get it to not scan the database.
Even the older scanners did not land on a frequency fast if the scan list was big enough....

Steve

On Apr 21, 2020, at 13:53, Tim Ferguson <tferg53@...> wrote:

 I’m rather perplexed and am hoping for some assistance from those who truly understand scanning today. I live in a city located at the corner of four counties which I have programmed into my 436HP, 536HP, and SDS100. Yet, and this is the issue, I can receive fire calls from neighboring Clinton County on 151.415 on my 1990’s Uniden Bearcat BC200XLT handheld with just a short antenna but cannot receive the same on any of the above scanners programmed using the RR database. The appropriate Service Types have been enabled, and the two 536HP’s are connected to outside antennas on a 40-foot TV tower.

For reference, referring to USA>Illinois>Clinton>County Systems>Clinton>Clinton County-ETSB/911 in Radio Reference.

Thanks,
Tim



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