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Re: sds100

Dale
 

They went to encryption a week or so ago. So you're not going to be able to hear anything more from kcpd. I have seen them pop up a couple of times since i think was East patrol. 


On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 1:48 PM <frh562004@...> wrote:
i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio.  any ideas?


Re: sds100

Joe M.
 

Nearly all (if not all) the Unidens mute P25 encryption.

Joe M.

On 9/17/2021 5:34 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
Depends on the scanner or in some cases, settings.
Since this is the SDS100 group, I assume we are talking about the SDS100. To be honest, I don't remember for sure, but I recall it goes silent. Mine is at home, so I can't test.

Jim Walls
K6CCC




-----Original Message-----
From: "frank henderson" <frh562004@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 14:26
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] sds100

used hear all, all sudden no audio. does encryptions make noise or silent?
On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:38 PM, R. Keske via groups.io <my80z28f41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Have you ever heard anything on this ID? If it shows up but no audio it probably went encrypted.

-------- Original message --------
From: frh562004@gmail.com
Date: 9/17/21 13:48 (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: [Uniden] sds100

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio. any ideas?











Re: sds100

Jim Walls
 

Depends on the scanner or in some cases, settings.
Since this is the SDS100 group, I assume we are talking about the SDS100. To be honest, I don't remember for sure, but I recall it goes silent. Mine is at home, so I can't test.

Jim Walls
K6CCC

-----Original Message-----
From: "frank henderson" <frh562004@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 14:26
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] sds100

used hear all, all sudden no audio. does encryptions make noise or silent?
On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:38 PM, R. Keske via groups.io <my80z28f41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Have you ever heard anything on this ID? If it shows up but no audio it probably went encrypted.

-------- Original message --------
From: frh562004@gmail.com
Date: 9/17/21 13:48 (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: [Uniden] sds100

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio. any ideas?


Re: sds100

Evan Platt
 

Like the radioreference page?

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:29 PM frank henderson <frh562004@gmail.com> wrote:

what is link to system?


Re: sds100

frank henderson <frh562004@...>
 

what is link to system?


Re: sds100

frh562004@...
 

used hear all, all sudden no audio. does encryptions make noise or silent?


On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:38 PM, R. Keske via groups.io <my80z28f41@...> wrote:

Have you ever heard anything on this ID? If it shows up but no audio it probably went encrypted. 

-------- Original message --------
From: frh562004@...
Date: 9/17/21 13:48 (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: [Uniden] sds100

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio.  any ideas?


Re: sds100

R. Keske
 

Have you ever heard anything on this ID? If it shows up but no audio it probably went encrypted. 

-------- Original message --------
From: frh562004@...
Date: 9/17/21 13:48 (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: [Uniden] sds100

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio.  any ideas?


Re: sds100

Evan Platt
 

A link to the system would help....

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 11:48 AM <frh562004@gmail.com> wrote:

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio. any ideas?


sds100

frh562004@...
 

i have talk group of kcpd and all of sudden get nothing maybe flash on screen, no audio.  any ideas?


Re: SDS Radios

harvey morse
 

Thanks, Joe, I will try that. Very much appreciated.

 

Harvey

K1DJG

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M. via groups.io" <mch@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Friday, September 17, 2021 at 1:37 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios

 

Then you will have to use the menu to

set the scan selection to scan them.

 

MENU

SET SCAN SELECTION

SELECT LISTS TO MONITOR

(scroll through them and turn on the ones you want to monitor)

 

Joe M.

 

On 9/17/2021 1:31 PM, harvey morse wrote:

No, they did not

 

*From: *<main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M. via groups.io"

*Date: *Friday, September 17, 2021 at 1:30 PM

*Subject: *Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios

 

Did the seller assign Quick Keys to them?

 

Joe M.

 

On 9/17/2021 1:27 PM, harvey morse wrote:

 

     I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite”

 

     groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need

 

     some instruction  in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor.

 

     Thanks!

 

     Harvey

 

     K1DJG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: SDS Radios

Joe M.
 

Then you will have to use the menu to
set the scan selection to scan them.

MENU
SET SCAN SELECTION
SELECT LISTS TO MONITOR
(scroll through them and turn on the ones you want to monitor)

Joe M.

On 9/17/2021 1:31 PM, harvey morse wrote:
No, they did not

*From: *<main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M. via groups.io"
<mch=nb.net@groups.io>
*Reply-To: *"main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
*Date: *Friday, September 17, 2021 at 1:30 PM
*To: *"main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios

Did the seller assign Quick Keys to them?

Joe M.

On 9/17/2021 1:27 PM, harvey morse wrote:

I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite”

groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need

some instruction in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor.

Thanks!

Harvey

K1DJG


Re: SDS Radios

harvey morse
 

No, they did not

 

 

From: <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of "Joe M. via groups.io" <mch@...>
Reply-To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Date: Friday, September 17, 2021 at 1:30 PM
To: "main@Uniden.groups.io" <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios

 

Did the seller assign Quick Keys to them?

 

Joe M.

 

On 9/17/2021 1:27 PM, harvey morse wrote:

I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite”

groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need

some instruction  in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor.

Thanks!

 

Harvey

 

K1DJG

 

 

 

 

 


Re: SDS Radios

Joe M.
 

Did the seller assign Quick Keys to them?

Joe M.

On 9/17/2021 1:27 PM, harvey morse wrote:
I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite”
groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need
some instruction in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor.
Thanks!

Harvey

K1DJG


Re: SDS Radios

harvey morse
 

I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite” groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need some instruction  in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor. Thanks!

 

Harvey

K1DJG


Re: SDS Radios

Wayne Smith
 

Bob,

And yes, you'll likely need access to a computer running Windows (Parallels on MacOS--at least prior to the M1 chip--should be OK too), at least for the use of EZ-SCAN (Whistler) and/or Sentinel (Uniden) for non-keyboard (or large scale) programming of the unit.  I've had relatively good experiences with recent versions of WINE over Linux (and also older Uniden software, such as for 396/996 programming, under Windows 10) but most folks on RadioReference aren't keen on that approach.  And I don't use it for firmware updates for either manufacturers just because I don't trust the USB/serial connection at that connection layer (I'm paranoid--I suspect that knowledgeable others have gotten it to work).

Someone else can correct me, but I don't think either the manufacturers or third-parties (e.g., Butel) have released binaries for Linux, *BSD, or MacOS for their scanning programming software.

73's,
Wayne, N6LHV


Re: SDS Radios

John C. Lowe
 

Thanks Joe.

On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:
If you are in Cleveland (or any other urban area) or very close to a busy tower, the unit will scan slower due to RF saturation. If you are in a rural area, it will scan faster.

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 11:13 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
Hi Joe,
Please give me an example of “RF Environment”. I am in North East Ohio and there’s plenty of listening from Cleveland, to the east and to the western suburbs.
Thanks!

On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:
That depends on your RF environment (for any scanner).
Joe M.
On 9/3/2021 10:45 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower.
Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni
On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io
<mailto:arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote:
Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.
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On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<http://groups.io>
<bobbystern=me.com@groups.io <mailto:bobbystern=me.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:
Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania.
All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA
but are limited here.
My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also
interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and
have relative PO in PG.
Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?
I no longer have windows computers for programming.
Thanks,
Bobby
——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion,
worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest,
biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception,
what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many
times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally
experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD
(https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system.
Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the
highly customizable screens.
Dewey


Re: SDS Radios

Dan Bowman
 

Having lived and traveled the area all of my life, the SDS100/200 is definitely the way to go. Prince Georges is on a Phase 2 system and the eastern shore is on a mostly Simulcast Phase 1/2 on the State FiRST System.  Most of the PD/Law side of things on the Eastern Shore have gone encrypted, so not a lot of local PD monitoring. Having just travel through those areas you mentioned, this morning, the SDS100 was the most reliable to decode those Systems will little to no Simulcast Digital Distortion.  Now how well you can monitor PG from Queen Anne I don't know as I mostly turn that off before turning the corner into Anne Arundel county, I can say most of Queen Anne has a few Sites it can receive on FiRST, and some of them simulcast (old meaning now refered to as multicasting) some transmissions from further away. With the Uniden BCDx36HP and SDS series, unlike some other makes and models you don't necessarily have to make 4-5 copies of a System, to listen to various Sites, simply use a few dots .. and you can turn the Sites On and Off at will.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Stern via groups.io <bobbystern@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios
 
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS200 NJ

Dan Bowman
 


I do, I simply deal with the Sites that are Appended, at creation, because you can't reAppend Sites once they are deleted, at least not without a convoluted ordeal, or third-party paid software.   Basically, with my Sites they are all 0's or 10's (zero's or ten's) 0 is closest to 90 furthest probable and all other Site being pressed unto SiQK 99.  You can use Avoid rather than SiQk, or you can use Location Control for that Favorites Lists, I prefer not to use Avoid, as I have to scroll to unAvoid, and use Location Control more for areas I'm not familiar with. All of the Departments are dealt with in the same fashion - I've tried to keep my creative editing down as that plays/pays off later down the road when you try to reAppend.  I do the same or similar with Departments 1-9, 11-19, 21-29 ... and Department 98, and back to 91 are my Everything Else Department-wise groups, where I might stack like entities Department Quick Keys together, like all DOC on 97, all DOT's on 96.  The methodology is based on knowing no matter what scanner I have, I can change the Keypad 10 times and twice on Sundays, but changing the scroll wheel or volume knob will be a labor of love, or a devil of a time.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of Byron Myers via groups.io <emtd99@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 5:19 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@uniden.groups.io>
Subject: [Uniden] SDS200 NJ
 
1) Anyone here from NJ? If so, what county?

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?

TIA






Re: SDS Radios

Bob Stern
 

Ouch.  Sorry to hear that.

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


Re: SDS Radios

Dan Bowman
 

The SDS series literally scans slower, but you also have people making unfair comparisons, scanning different things, with different reception styles between the BCDx36HP series and the SDS series. One setting in the SDS with the filters can make the scanner seem like it's scanning at half-rate.  Unfortunately, I don't really see many members, of groups, being very specific and can see some of the inherent and then passed on, fallacie. The BCDx36HP series won't get this person a Simulcast Digital Distortion beating scanner, instead a scanner that can constantly fail on the most important of replies.  Most of the Eastern Shore is flat, and while the Non-Simulcast "ASR" Sites might not need the SDS almost all the rest of the Sites and the 2 Systems he mentioned have Simulcast used exclusively.  Be a real bear for him to spend $450 to find out he need to spend another $60 to return it to spend $550 once and get the right product.  Now if he wants to listen to Baltimore fire dispatch on 46.46mHz he could spend as little as $15 to get the old Analog stuff around here that is left.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of John C. Lowe <gianni777s@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:45 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios
 
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower. Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io <arswa3toy@...> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey

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