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Re: SDS Radios

Joe M.
 

Did the seller assign Quick Keys to them?

Joe M.

On 9/17/2021 1:27 PM, harvey morse wrote:
I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite”
groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need
some instruction in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor.
Thanks!

Harvey

K1DJG


Re: SDS Radios

harvey morse
 

I purchased an SD100 and had the seller program a bunch of my “favorite” groups. In the menu, I can see a list of all my groups, however I need some instruction  in learning how to select the one I wish to monitor. Thanks!

 

Harvey

K1DJG


Re: SDS Radios

Wayne Smith
 

Bob,

And yes, you'll likely need access to a computer running Windows (Parallels on MacOS--at least prior to the M1 chip--should be OK too), at least for the use of EZ-SCAN (Whistler) and/or Sentinel (Uniden) for non-keyboard (or large scale) programming of the unit.  I've had relatively good experiences with recent versions of WINE over Linux (and also older Uniden software, such as for 396/996 programming, under Windows 10) but most folks on RadioReference aren't keen on that approach.  And I don't use it for firmware updates for either manufacturers just because I don't trust the USB/serial connection at that connection layer (I'm paranoid--I suspect that knowledgeable others have gotten it to work).

Someone else can correct me, but I don't think either the manufacturers or third-parties (e.g., Butel) have released binaries for Linux, *BSD, or MacOS for their scanning programming software.

73's,
Wayne, N6LHV


Re: SDS Radios

John C. Lowe
 

Thanks Joe.

On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:
If you are in Cleveland (or any other urban area) or very close to a busy tower, the unit will scan slower due to RF saturation. If you are in a rural area, it will scan faster.

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 11:13 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
Hi Joe,
Please give me an example of “RF Environment”. I am in North East Ohio and there’s plenty of listening from Cleveland, to the east and to the western suburbs.
Thanks!

On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:
That depends on your RF environment (for any scanner).
Joe M.
On 9/3/2021 10:45 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower.
Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni
On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io
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<mailto:arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote:
Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.
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On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<http://groups.io>
<bobbystern=me.com@groups.io <mailto:bobbystern=me.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:
Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania.
All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA
but are limited here.
My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also
interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and
have relative PO in PG.
Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?
I no longer have windows computers for programming.
Thanks,
Bobby
——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion,
worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest,
biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception,
what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many
times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally
experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD
(https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system.
Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the
highly customizable screens.
Dewey


Re: SDS Radios

Dan Bowman
 

Having lived and traveled the area all of my life, the SDS100/200 is definitely the way to go. Prince Georges is on a Phase 2 system and the eastern shore is on a mostly Simulcast Phase 1/2 on the State FiRST System.  Most of the PD/Law side of things on the Eastern Shore have gone encrypted, so not a lot of local PD monitoring. Having just travel through those areas you mentioned, this morning, the SDS100 was the most reliable to decode those Systems will little to no Simulcast Digital Distortion.  Now how well you can monitor PG from Queen Anne I don't know as I mostly turn that off before turning the corner into Anne Arundel county, I can say most of Queen Anne has a few Sites it can receive on FiRST, and some of them simulcast (old meaning now refered to as multicasting) some transmissions from further away. With the Uniden BCDx36HP and SDS series, unlike some other makes and models you don't necessarily have to make 4-5 copies of a System, to listen to various Sites, simply use a few dots .. and you can turn the Sites On and Off at will.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Stern via groups.io <bobbystern@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios
 
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS200 NJ

Dan Bowman
 


I do, I simply deal with the Sites that are Appended, at creation, because you can't reAppend Sites once they are deleted, at least not without a convoluted ordeal, or third-party paid software.   Basically, with my Sites they are all 0's or 10's (zero's or ten's) 0 is closest to 90 furthest probable and all other Site being pressed unto SiQK 99.  You can use Avoid rather than SiQk, or you can use Location Control for that Favorites Lists, I prefer not to use Avoid, as I have to scroll to unAvoid, and use Location Control more for areas I'm not familiar with. All of the Departments are dealt with in the same fashion - I've tried to keep my creative editing down as that plays/pays off later down the road when you try to reAppend.  I do the same or similar with Departments 1-9, 11-19, 21-29 ... and Department 98, and back to 91 are my Everything Else Department-wise groups, where I might stack like entities Department Quick Keys together, like all DOC on 97, all DOT's on 96.  The methodology is based on knowing no matter what scanner I have, I can change the Keypad 10 times and twice on Sundays, but changing the scroll wheel or volume knob will be a labor of love, or a devil of a time.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of Byron Myers via groups.io <emtd99@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 5:19 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@uniden.groups.io>
Subject: [Uniden] SDS200 NJ
 
1) Anyone here from NJ? If so, what county?

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?

TIA






Re: SDS Radios

Bob Stern
 

Ouch.  Sorry to hear that.

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


Re: SDS Radios

Dan Bowman
 

The SDS series literally scans slower, but you also have people making unfair comparisons, scanning different things, with different reception styles between the BCDx36HP series and the SDS series. One setting in the SDS with the filters can make the scanner seem like it's scanning at half-rate.  Unfortunately, I don't really see many members, of groups, being very specific and can see some of the inherent and then passed on, fallacie. The BCDx36HP series won't get this person a Simulcast Digital Distortion beating scanner, instead a scanner that can constantly fail on the most important of replies.  Most of the Eastern Shore is flat, and while the Non-Simulcast "ASR" Sites might not need the SDS almost all the rest of the Sites and the 2 Systems he mentioned have Simulcast used exclusively.  Be a real bear for him to spend $450 to find out he need to spend another $60 to return it to spend $550 once and get the right product.  Now if he wants to listen to Baltimore fire dispatch on 46.46mHz he could spend as little as $15 to get the old Analog stuff around here that is left.

Dan Bowman
503-435-7606


From: main@Uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io> on behalf of John C. Lowe <gianni777s@...>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:45 PM
To: main@uniden.groups.io <main@Uniden.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Uniden] SDS Radios
 
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower. Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io <arswa3toy@...> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS200 NJ

Bernard Skoch
 

I don't live in NJ, but in an area with a large statewide simulcast system.

I only recently figured out what a huge difference it made in boot-up time to delete sites I won't access. 20 seconds turned into 5 seconds.


-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Myers via groups.io <emtd99@...>
To: main@uniden.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Sep 3, 2021 12:19 pm
Subject: [Uniden] SDS200 NJ

1) Anyone here from NJ? If so, what county?

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?

TIA






Re: SDS200 NJ

Jim Walls
 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Byron Myers

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?

A Simulcast cell is transmitting EXACTLY the same thing on EXACTLY the same frequencies on all sites in the cell. Your scanner (or real radios) have no idea which site in a simulcast they are receiving at any given time. So programming one site within the cell also gives all the other sites in that simulcast cell.

Now, if you are talking about different simulcast cells or different non-simulcast sites, those are programmed different. You could program how every many of those as you have a reason to think you are going to want to listen to.

73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@k6ccc.org


Re: SDS200 NJ

Joe M.
 

If it's a single zone simulcast system all the sites will have the same frequencies so you only need put it in once. If they have multiple zones you can program any that might be in range of your monitoring location(s).

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 1:19 PM, Byron Myers via groups.io wrote:

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?


SDS200 NJ

Byron Myers
 

1) Anyone here from NJ? If so, what county?

2) When you program a simulcast system , do you put in all the sites?

TIA


Re: SDS Radios

Joe M.
 

If you are in Cleveland (or any other urban area) or very close to a busy tower, the unit will scan slower due to RF saturation. If you are in a rural area, it will scan faster.

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 11:13 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
Hi Joe,
Please give me an example of “RF Environment”. I am in North East Ohio and there’s plenty of listening from Cleveland, to the east and to the western suburbs.
Thanks!

On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:

That depends on your RF environment (for any scanner).

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 10:45 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower.
Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io
<mailto:arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.

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On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<http://groups.io>
<bobbystern=me.com@groups.io <mailto:bobbystern=me.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania.
All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA
but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also
interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and
have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion,
worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest,
biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception,
what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many
times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally
experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD
(https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system.
Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the
highly customizable screens.

Dewey








Re: SDS Radios

John C. Lowe
 

Hi Joe,
Please give me an example of “RF Environment”. I am in North East Ohio and there’s plenty of listening from Cleveland, to the east and to the western suburbs.
Thanks!

On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joe M. <mch@nb.net> wrote:

That depends on your RF environment (for any scanner).

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 10:45 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower.
Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io
<mailto:arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp>

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<http://groups.io>
<bobbystern=me.com@groups.io <mailto:bobbystern=me.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania.
All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA
but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also
interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and
have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion,
worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest,
biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception,
what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many
times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally
experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD
(https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system.
Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the
highly customizable screens.

Dewey




Re: SDS Radios

Joe M.
 

That depends on your RF environment (for any scanner).

Joe M.

On 9/3/2021 10:45 AM, John C. Lowe wrote:
To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower.
Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io
<mailto:arswa3toy=verizon.net@groups.io>> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp>

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<http://groups.io>
<bobbystern=me.com@groups.io <mailto:bobbystern=me.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania.
All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA
but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also
interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and
have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion,
worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest,
biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception,
what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many
times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally
experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD
(https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system.
Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the
highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS Radios

John C. Lowe
 

To Dewey: I keep reading in these threads that the SDS’s scan slower. Just how much slower and is it recognizable enough to make a difference?
Thanks,
Gianni

On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Kurt WA3TOY via groups.io <arswa3toy@...> wrote:

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS Radios

Kurt WA3TOY
 

Be aware that a lot of the Eastern Shore is going encripted.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:27, Bob Stern via groups.io
<bobbystern@...> wrote:
Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey


Re: SDS Radios/ HOME PATROL

Edward Maikranz
 

I agree that traveling with the Home Patrol is great, especially with a GPS connected. I went a step farther, I now use an SDS-100 with a built in GPS module, it is the ultimate road trip scanner. 
Ed


On Sep 3, 2021, at 8:36 AM, KD2DRS via groups.io <LEECSMITH@...> wrote:


I travel quite a bit for work and just for enjoyment and love the Home Patrol.  

If you're using the radio in multiple destinations you need Home Patrol, it makes all that simple.


Re: SDS Radios/ HOME PATROL

KD2DRS <LEECSMITH@...>
 

I travel quite a bit for work and just for enjoyment and love the Home Patrol.  

If you're using the radio in multiple destinations you need Home Patrol, it makes all that simple.


Re: SDS Radios

Bob Stern
 

Dewey and anyone else:

Forgive my ignorance. I just moved to Maryland from Pennsylvania. All my scanners are older analog models. They served me well in PA but are limited here.

My primary counties of interest are Queen Anne’s and PG. Am also interested in all Eastern Shore counties. I am living in QAC and have relative PO in PG.

Which handheld scanner should I buy?
Would the Home Patrol work?

I no longer have windows computers for programming.

Thanks,

Bobby

——-
I think you'll get differing opinions, but my personal opinion, worth what you're paying for it, is that the SDS' biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest difference is the simulcast reception, what the SDS was designed for. I know that has been said many many times already, but I'm a firm believer after personally experiencing the difference on the PG County, MD (https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=6341) TDMA system. Other than that, the x36 series scans faster, but the SDS has the highly customizable screens.

Dewey

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