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Re: Repairs

Joe M.
 

Well, you could have them send it back, get the parts, and fix it yourself. Of course if they are having trouble getting the parts, I'm not sure how soon it might be until you get them.

COVID has everything backing up. People don't want to work because they are currently making as much or more sitting at home. I know several who are making almost double what they normally would, and they don't have to spend money on fuel, or wear-and-tear on the car, and all that time wasted actually working. It's like a country-wide vacation.

I was talking to a guy who has a used car lot. He can't even get cars to sell. Nobody is trading them in and the auction houses are not running much.

Don't worry. Things will return to normal when the government cheese runs out. Hopefully that will be sooner rather than later.

Joe M.

On 5/21/2021 3:17 PM, harvey morse wrote:
I have an SDS-100 that is not working properly. I sent it in to Uniden
over two months ago. Each time I call to check on the status I receive
the same response: i.e. “We will get to it as soon as we can”. Frankly,
two months seems excessive. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Harvey

K1DJG
Re: Repairs

Craig Scott
 

Hang in there.  Yeah, it sucks to be without, but we (an AV Co.) are having the same issues with pro cameras, projectors, microphones, etc., getting repaired, due to COVID.  Big names too like Sony, Panasonic and Shure.  All backed up.  Some repairs are even been completed in technicians homes!  I have sent in a couple of 780's and 785's to Uniden a few years ago.  Think I never waited more than a month to get it back.  New reality.
Craig
Watervliet NY

On Friday, May 21, 2021, 3:17:30 PM EDT, harvey morse <harvey@...> wrote:


I have an SDS-100 that is not working properly. I sent it in to Uniden over two months ago. Each time I call to check on the status I receive the same response: i.e. “We will get to it as soon as we can”. Frankly, two months seems excessive. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Harvey

K1DJG
Re: Repairs

harvey morse
 

I have an SDS-100 that is not working properly. I sent it in to Uniden over two months ago. Each time I call to check on the status I receive the same response: i.e. “We will get to it as soon as we can”. Frankly, two months seems excessive. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Harvey

K1DJG
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Gary Saffer
 

I've lost track of this a bit, so I might be repeating myself.

453.250 CC:05 TG:1111

For the 456/536 my listing is this,

453.250000 LUDLOW POLICE DEPARTMENT Off FM DMR 5 Law Dispatch

If you entered it as a new listing, make sure that you have the Service Type correct.

I haven't been out that way for a couple of years, but as I remember it was working then. It was also confirmed on Scan New England earlier this month.

Gary
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

Not to muddy the works here, but I have been following this some. I decided to give something a try. Looking at the FCC database, there aren't any licenses that show up for Ludlow with a frequency of 453.250. And expanding out farther, there are only five licenses for the whole state on that frequency, and they are all public works. Maybe you have the frequency wrong?

Mick

----- Original Message -----
From: Maggie O'Connor
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 08:27:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

> Hi Milt,
>
> Thanks for the very valuable clarification here. I'm sorry I didn't
> immediately see how you were "testing" this. To answer your questions:
>
> Yes, the frequency is the same as it was before.
>
> Yes I have older non-digital capable scanners that I run all the time.
> There is total silence on that freq 453.250. Interesting that that means I
> won't get anything on the digital if that's the case, but that's what's
> happening for sure. Nothing. Silence.
>
> I googled a bunch and don't see any reference to Ludlow Police being
> encrypted - but it could be.
>
> I'm about 2 miles from Ludlow and could hear it on the analog, not a super
> strong signal, but audible. I am getting the other Ludlow services, Fire,
> etc., which haven't changed, just fine.
>
> Under Upgrade, I have:
> Upgrade ProVoice
> Upgrade DMS/MotoTRBO
> Upgrade NXDN
>
> Fortunately, Ray Hill, (local but doesn't yet have the DMR upgrade at the
> moment) has helped me immensely especially when I first got this scanner. HE
> screen-shared with me and we met up in person. It turned out that Sentinel
> is so "easy" I didn't spend a lot of time doing manual programming on the
> scanner. I'm sure I could brush up on that. Also, all of the fine people
> in this group have helped me with this model over the years.
>
> I don't usually listen to Holyoke, but since you pointed out that it's DMR,
> I'll try it and see if I get anything. I'm pretty sure I would receive
> their transmissions.
>
> I hope all of this helps trigger someone to have an idea of what's wrong.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> - Maggie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: n3ltq
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:00 AM
> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
>
> The purpose of my suggestion was to determine if your radio is hearing
> any signal at all. Before the radio can decode digital transmissions
> like P25 or DMR it must hear the transmission.
>
> Looking at the Hampden county Mass. page on Radio Reference it appears
> that the Ludlow Police department is the only one that uses DMR for
> police communications. All the other police departments use either
> analog or P25 digital, and some of the departments using P25 are
> encrypted. Westfield, West Springfield use DMR for public works;
> Holyoke appears to be using DMR for Fire department and public works
> communications.
>
> Yes, you will not hear anything or see any signal strength indication
> unless the radio is receiving a transmission. What I suggested was
> that you listen in analog mode, not any form of digital, in order to
> see if you are receiving any sort of signal. IF you are receiving a
> digital signal in analog mode it will sound like a rattling or
> sputtering noise. If you cannot hear anything in analog mode you will
> not hear anything in digital mode.
>
> Do you have any other scanner such as an older non-digital capable
> programmable scanner that you could use to make this test? If so
> program in the frequency of 453.250 and listen. Do you hear ANYTHING
> at all?
>
> How close are you to Ludlow? You indicate that you were able to
> previously hear their transmissions when the department was using
> analog.
>
> Is the frequency the same as before, or did it change?
>
> Are you sure that your scanner has the DMR license and that it is
> installed and activated?
>
> Radio Reference information is not always correct.
>
> Just like P25, DMR is capable of encryption.
>
> Since you are downloading Radio Reference information, and seem to be
> unfamiliar with programming or operating the scanner manually it may
> be better for you to seek out someone local who can assist you.
>
> Milt
> N3LTQ
>
>
> Quoting Maggie O'Connor :
>
> > Hi, so if I "hold" on the channel I don't think I see the signal strength
> > unless something activates it, right? And I have held on that channel
> > way more than long enough for there to be activity yet I get nothing.. I
> > received them pretty well just on their conventional, before changing to
> > DMR I guess a while ago so I surely should hear them.. I think it was on
> > NFM before I changed it, but I'm trying it again. Not sure how to
> > program for FM Analog. There is a drop down with FM in it... Also I
> > thought it would need to be digital for DMR - but honestly I barely
> > understand this stuff! I just like to listen!
> >
> > Thank you very much. I'll let you know.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: n3ltq
> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:36 AM
> > To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
> >
> > Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog
> > conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any
> > indication that the radio is receiving a signal?
> >
> >
> > Quoting Maggie O'Connor :
> >
> >> Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to
> >> Manual.
> >>
> >> Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows
> >> up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I
> >> want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level
> >> (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices
> >> here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.
> >>
> >> So far still not getting anything.
> >>
> >> Thank you, as always.
> >>
> >> - Maggie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
> >> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
> >>
> >> For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
> >> set at the System level.
> >>
> >> For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.
> >>
> >> Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
> >>> Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an
> >>> 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8)
> >>> but I can't find it again!
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
> >>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> >>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
> >>>
> >>> Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
> >>>> Hi There,
> >>>>
> >>>> BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA
> >>>> which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in
> >>>> there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law
> >>>> Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?).
> >>>> However, I get nothing. Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks - Maggie
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
> >>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
> >>>>
> >>>> If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
> >>>> The color code option is only available after that is selected.
> >>>>
> >>>> You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
> >>>> you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes you can import just one city into a FL.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe M.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
> >>>>> radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that
> >>>>> up.
> >>>>> I'd love to do that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
> >>>>> Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
> >>>>> Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
> >>>>> as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
> >>>>> hearing it all..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As usual - one question always brings many more from me..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
> >>>>> updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been
> >>>>> years
> >>>>> since I touched it!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Aside:
> >>>>> Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or
> >>>>> Joe -
> >>>>> is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> the SDS100.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks - As always.
> >>>>> - Maggie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
> >>>>> To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
> >>>>> the color code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
> >>>>> talkgroups you want to hear.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
> >>>>> system, you would have to program that as a new system type.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joe M.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
> >>>>>> Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
> >>>>>> anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow,
> >>>>>> MA
> >>>>>> police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
> >>>>>> previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>> have had for years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type,
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>> is turned on?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks very much,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Maggie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
--

Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

dsugarma@optonline.net
 

Did an FCC search for Ludlow. Showing 3 repeater frequencies assigned to the Police Dept. under callsign WQEY264. Maybe they are using these freqs now?

Try these: 453.3125 453.4625 453.7625

Dave KB2KMM
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Jim Walls
 

On 05/20/2021 19:27, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Yes I have older non-digital capable scanners that I run all the time. There is total silence on that freq 453.250.  Interesting that that means I won't get anything on the digital if that's the case, but that's what's happening for sure.  Nothing.  Silence.
Make sure you are listening carrier squelch (no PL) on the analog scanner.  If you are hearing nothing, then it means that the agency you are trying to hear on the frequency has changed frequency.  If they are DMR on that frequency, you should hear largely noise.  It's a destinctive noise if you've heard it before, but I could not describe it well enough in text for you to know exactly what to listen for.


--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@...
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/k6ccc/
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi Milt,

Thanks for the very valuable clarification here. I'm sorry I didn't immediately see how you were "testing" this. To answer your questions:

Yes, the frequency is the same as it was before.

Yes I have older non-digital capable scanners that I run all the time. There is total silence on that freq 453.250. Interesting that that means I won't get anything on the digital if that's the case, but that's what's happening for sure. Nothing. Silence.

I googled a bunch and don't see any reference to Ludlow Police being encrypted - but it could be.

I'm about 2 miles from Ludlow and could hear it on the analog, not a super strong signal, but audible. I am getting the other Ludlow services, Fire, etc., which haven't changed, just fine.

Under Upgrade, I have:
Upgrade ProVoice
Upgrade DMS/MotoTRBO
Upgrade NXDN

Fortunately, Ray Hill, (local but doesn't yet have the DMR upgrade at the moment) has helped me immensely especially when I first got this scanner. HE screen-shared with me and we met up in person. It turned out that Sentinel is so "easy" I didn't spend a lot of time doing manual programming on the scanner. I'm sure I could brush up on that. Also, all of the fine people in this group have helped me with this model over the years.

I don't usually listen to Holyoke, but since you pointed out that it's DMR, I'll try it and see if I get anything. I'm pretty sure I would receive their transmissions.

I hope all of this helps trigger someone to have an idea of what's wrong.

Thank you very much.

- Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: n3ltq
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:00 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

The purpose of my suggestion was to determine if your radio is hearing
any signal at all. Before the radio can decode digital transmissions
like P25 or DMR it must hear the transmission.

Looking at the Hampden county Mass. page on Radio Reference it appears
that the Ludlow Police department is the only one that uses DMR for
police communications. All the other police departments use either
analog or P25 digital, and some of the departments using P25 are
encrypted. Westfield, West Springfield use DMR for public works;
Holyoke appears to be using DMR for Fire department and public works
communications.

Yes, you will not hear anything or see any signal strength indication
unless the radio is receiving a transmission. What I suggested was
that you listen in analog mode, not any form of digital, in order to
see if you are receiving any sort of signal. IF you are receiving a
digital signal in analog mode it will sound like a rattling or
sputtering noise. If you cannot hear anything in analog mode you will
not hear anything in digital mode.

Do you have any other scanner such as an older non-digital capable
programmable scanner that you could use to make this test? If so
program in the frequency of 453.250 and listen. Do you hear ANYTHING
at all?

How close are you to Ludlow? You indicate that you were able to
previously hear their transmissions when the department was using
analog.

Is the frequency the same as before, or did it change?

Are you sure that your scanner has the DMR license and that it is
installed and activated?

Radio Reference information is not always correct.

Just like P25, DMR is capable of encryption.

Since you are downloading Radio Reference information, and seem to be
unfamiliar with programming or operating the scanner manually it may
be better for you to seek out someone local who can assist you.

Milt
N3LTQ


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Hi, so if I "hold" on the channel I don't think I see the signal strength unless something activates it, right? And I have held on that channel way more than long enough for there to be activity yet I get nothing.. I received them pretty well just on their conventional, before changing to DMR I guess a while ago so I surely should hear them.. I think it was on NFM before I changed it, but I'm trying it again. Not sure how to program for FM Analog. There is a drop down with FM in it... Also I thought it would need to be digital for DMR - but honestly I barely understand this stuff! I just like to listen!

Thank you very much. I'll let you know.

-----Original Message----- From: n3ltq
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog
conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any
indication that the radio is receiving a signal?


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hey Milt,

I wasn’t able to get to this until all the taxes were done! I will answer tonight.

Thank you very much.

- Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: n3ltq
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:00 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

The purpose of my suggestion was to determine if your radio is hearing
any signal at all. Before the radio can decode digital transmissions
like P25 or DMR it must hear the transmission.

Looking at the Hampden county Mass. page on Radio Reference it appears
that the Ludlow Police department is the only one that uses DMR for
police communications. All the other police departments use either
analog or P25 digital, and some of the departments using P25 are
encrypted. Westfield, West Springfield use DMR for public works;
Holyoke appears to be using DMR for Fire department and public works
communications.

Yes, you will not hear anything or see any signal strength indication
unless the radio is receiving a transmission. What I suggested was
that you listen in analog mode, not any form of digital, in order to
see if you are receiving any sort of signal. IF you are receiving a
digital signal in analog mode it will sound like a rattling or
sputtering noise. If you cannot hear anything in analog mode you will
not hear anything in digital mode.

Do you have any other scanner such as an older non-digital capable
programmable scanner that you could use to make this test? If so
program in the frequency of 453.250 and listen. Do you hear ANYTHING
at all?

How close are you to Ludlow? You indicate that you were able to
previously hear their transmissions when the department was using
analog.

Is the frequency the same as before, or did it change?

Are you sure that your scanner has the DMR license and that it is
installed and activated?

Radio Reference information is not always correct.

Just like P25, DMR is capable of encryption.

Since you are downloading Radio Reference information, and seem to be
unfamiliar with programming or operating the scanner manually it may
be better for you to seek out someone local who can assist you.

Milt
N3LTQ


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Hi, so if I "hold" on the channel I don't think I see the signal strength unless something activates it, right? And I have held on that channel way more than long enough for there to be activity yet I get nothing.. I received them pretty well just on their conventional, before changing to DMR I guess a while ago so I surely should hear them.. I think it was on NFM before I changed it, but I'm trying it again. Not sure how to program for FM Analog. There is a drop down with FM in it... Also I thought it would need to be digital for DMR - but honestly I barely understand this stuff! I just like to listen!

Thank you very much. I'll let you know.

-----Original Message----- From: n3ltq
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog
conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any
indication that the radio is receiving a signal?


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

n3ltq
 

The purpose of my suggestion was to determine if your radio is hearing any signal at all. Before the radio can decode digital transmissions like P25 or DMR it must hear the transmission.

Looking at the Hampden county Mass. page on Radio Reference it appears that the Ludlow Police department is the only one that uses DMR for police communications. All the other police departments use either analog or P25 digital, and some of the departments using P25 are encrypted. Westfield, West Springfield use DMR for public works; Holyoke appears to be using DMR for Fire department and public works communications.

Yes, you will not hear anything or see any signal strength indication unless the radio is receiving a transmission. What I suggested was that you listen in analog mode, not any form of digital, in order to see if you are receiving any sort of signal. IF you are receiving a digital signal in analog mode it will sound like a rattling or sputtering noise. If you cannot hear anything in analog mode you will not hear anything in digital mode.

Do you have any other scanner such as an older non-digital capable programmable scanner that you could use to make this test? If so program in the frequency of 453.250 and listen. Do you hear ANYTHING at all?

How close are you to Ludlow? You indicate that you were able to previously hear their transmissions when the department was using analog.

Is the frequency the same as before, or did it change?

Are you sure that your scanner has the DMR license and that it is installed and activated?

Radio Reference information is not always correct.

Just like P25, DMR is capable of encryption.

Since you are downloading Radio Reference information, and seem to be unfamiliar with programming or operating the scanner manually it may be better for you to seek out someone local who can assist you.

Milt
N3LTQ


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Hi, so if I "hold" on the channel I don't think I see the signal strength unless something activates it, right? And I have held on that channel way more than long enough for there to be activity yet I get nothing.. I received them pretty well just on their conventional, before changing to DMR I guess a while ago so I surely should hear them.. I think it was on NFM before I changed it, but I'm trying it again. Not sure how to program for FM Analog. There is a drop down with FM in it... Also I thought it would need to be digital for DMR - but honestly I barely understand this stuff! I just like to listen!

Thank you very much. I'll let you know.

-----Original Message----- From: n3ltq
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog
conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any
indication that the radio is receiving a signal?


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi, so if I "hold" on the channel I don't think I see the signal strength unless something activates it, right? And I have held on that channel way more than long enough for there to be activity yet I get nothing.. I received them pretty well just on their conventional, before changing to DMR I guess a while ago so I surely should hear them.. I think it was on NFM before I changed it, but I'm trying it again. Not sure how to program for FM Analog. There is a drop down with FM in it... Also I thought it would need to be digital for DMR - but honestly I barely understand this stuff! I just like to listen!

Thank you very much. I'll let you know.

-----Original Message-----
From: n3ltq
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog
conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any
indication that the radio is receiving a signal?


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

n3ltq
 

Backing up, if you program the channel as NFM or FM analog conventional and hold on it, do you hear ANYTHING or see any indication that the radio is receiving a signal?


Quoting Maggie O'Connor <Maggie-o@...>:

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Gary - You're right re threshold not at the Dept Level. I set it to Manual.

Joel - Re - "Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel" NFM shows up at the frequency level as Auto in Sentinel. Not sure which choice I want here - and/or if I'm in the right place. I'm at the Channel Level (in Sentinel) and Modulation is set to Auto. There are several choices here - but not say "Digital" - so not sure which one to choose.

So far still not getting anything.

Thank you, as always.

- Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's
set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."



On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi Joel, 

I will try that, but probably not until tomorrow. I will let you know.

Thank you. 

On May 11, 2021 11:15:04 PM "Joel Kahn" <jrkahn@...> wrote:

Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel

Joel R Kahn


On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 10:04:32 PM EDT, Maggie O'Connor <maggie-o@...> wrote:


Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License.  I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is
now on DMR.  I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250.
It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type
turned on (do service types go across FL's?).  However, I get nothing.  Any
ideas?

Thanks - Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Gary Saffer
 

For trunk systems, I think it's at the Site Level. For conventional it's set at the System level.

For the 436HP, I don't see threshold levels at the Department Level.

Also, make sure Threshold is set to "Manual" not "Automatic."

On 5/11/2021 22:50, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Thanks Gary.  I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8.  I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.
On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License.  I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR.  I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing.  Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys!  Thank you so much!  Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP.  And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type?  Is that on the scanner only?  In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups?  I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it?  So I'd be just
updating that one city?  It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100?  I'm thinking of getting one.  Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out?  I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police?  They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS.  It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Joel Kahn
 

Try changing the NFM to Digital using Sentinel

Joel R Kahn


On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 10:04:32 PM EDT, Maggie O'Connor <maggie-o@...> wrote:


Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License.  I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is
now on DMR.  I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250.
It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type
turned on (do service types go across FL's?).  However, I get nothing.  Any
ideas?

Thanks - Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Thanks Gary. I find that setting at the Department level, and it's an 8. I then "thought" I found it for the Municipality (and it was an 8) but I can't find it again!

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Saffer
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:17 PM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.



On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Gary Saffer
 

Check the digital threshold level. For DMR I usually use 8.

On 5/11/2021 22:04, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi There,
BCD436HP with DMR License.  I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR.  I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing.  Any ideas?
Thanks - Maggie
-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR
If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.
You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.
Yes you can import just one city into a FL.
Joe M.
On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys!  Thank you so much!  Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP.  And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type?  Is that on the scanner only?  In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups?  I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it?  So I'd be just
updating that one city?  It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100?  I'm thinking of getting one.  Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out?  I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police?  They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS.  It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Ludlow, MA - DMR

Maggie O'Connor
 

Hi There,

BCD436HP with DMR License. I made new FL which included Ludlow, MA which is now on DMR. I am sure the FL came down and I see Ludlow in there - 453.250. It shows NFM Color Code 5 and I'm sure I have "Law Dispatch" Service Type turned on (do service types go across FL's?). However, I get nothing. Any ideas?

Thanks - Maggie

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe M.
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If color code 5 is set, it has to be digital only for the audio type.
The color code option is only available after that is selected.

You will hear all the TGs regardless. If you want to program it as OFT,
you can select specific TGs to hear and use ID SCAN.

Yes you can import just one city into a FL.

Joe M.

On 5/5/2021 6:27 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Hi Guys! Thank you so much! Super sorry I should have told you the
radio - the BCD436HP. And my first actual "use" of DMR!

Not sure how to program a 1 freq trunk, but guessing I can look that up.
I'd love to do that.

Audio Type? Is that on the scanner only? In the software I have
Modulation Auto, Color Code 5 under Audio Option - but not sure where
Audio Type is.. In the software, on the radio or both?

It doesn't look like it's a trunked system, on RRDB.. Can I still prog
as trunk and hear talk groups? I don't have to - I'm interested in
hearing it all..

As usual - one question always brings many more from me..

Can I take just one city in a county from the Full/New DB and bring that
down into a FL with a bunch of other stuff in it? So I'd be just
updating that one city? It SHOULD re-make my FL - since it's been years
since I touched it!

Aside:
Is there a group for the SDS100? I'm thinking of getting one. Or Joe -
is there a new scanner coming out? I notice most places are sold out of
the SDS100.

Thanks - As always.
- Maggie

-----Original Message----- From: Joe M.
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:40 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Ludlow, MA - DMR

If they are using conventional DMR, you have two choices:

1. Keep it as-is but change the audio type to DIGITAL ONLY and program
the color code.

2. Program it as a one-frequency-trunk and then you can select the
talkgroups you want to hear.

If they upgraded from analog to DMR AND upgraded to a trunked
system, you would have to program that as a new system type.

Joe M.

On 5/4/2021 10:23 PM, Maggie O'Connor wrote:
Assuming I have the DMR license, which I'm pretty sure I do, is there
anything else I have to do to receive transmissions from the Ludlow, MA
police? They are listed in the RR DB as DMR (Color Code 5) and were
previously listed at CTCSS. It appears to be on the same frequency they
have had for years.

Would I have to update my FL assuming it's the same Service Type, which
is turned on?

Thanks very much,

- Maggie
Re: Amplified Speaker

KA9QJG
 

Someone  made a comment We  do not need an Amplified  Speaker  a regular external  one will work  .Yes  but the reason I did it on my SDS-100  The audio on VHF/UHF Analog  if I turned  just the scanner up to hear it better  it had a loud hiss in it .I am Old and  have some hearing loss from being young dumb and stupid  it the US Navy  on Air Craft Carriers and Law Enforcement ranges  and not wearing hearing protection .

 

So  with the amplified  Motorola  speaker I can barely turn the  audio up and it is loud and clear no hiss and the battery last longer too,  It does not have to be a Motorola  But that’s what I like ,  Uniden and others  make Amplified speaker for scanners  and CB and Ham Radios , Here is a PDF  info on the Motorola http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/motorola_amp_spkr_mods_04jul2009.pdf

 

Only problem I have had over the years was sometimes  I would get Alternator  whine , I will not say generator  that was a long time ago and tube type Scanners would  not be to bad  and I will  give my age away LOL

 

Happy Scanning

 

Don KA9QJG

 

PS  If  you do not feel comfortable  in wiring something your expensive  to you scanner  Buy something  ready to go ..My reason was more about removing the annoying hiss noise out ..

 

https://www.scannermaster.com/Speakers_for_Police_Scanner_Radios_s/47.htm

 

 

 

From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Burns
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Uniden] Amplified Speaker

 

Hey Don,

How is it wired to your scanner?

Is it powered by a separate power source?

I have a Motorola speaker that is not powered. No model number, looks like yours, but only has 2 wires coming from it.. When connected to my SDS100, the battery (even plugged into the charger) last less than an hour. I need to find a way to add a small amplifier to the speaker.

Joe

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