Re: P25 for Cheap


Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

A similar thing here, can't hold your cell phone to talk town (Bluetooth is okay). But the police are much more qualified so they are able to talk on the phone while driving, and listen to the radio, and looking at their terminal, and maybe reading the newspaper, and . . .  so they are safer drivers than just someone just on their phone.

Mick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe M."
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 09:37:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] P25 for Cheap

> If texting while driving is illegal, it should be illegal for everyone.
>
> My state has exemptions for 'certain people'. Well, is it dangerous or
> not? If it is, how can 'certain people' be safe?
>
> I have a county (several, in fact) in my area that went from a
> voice-dispatch to text dispatch. Think about that a minute. If you are
> driving, they are forcing you to read texts to see what the call is.
> Why? Job security? (yea - think about that last question a little, too)
>
> 'nuff said.
>
> Joe M.
>
> On 11/8/2019 11:29 PM, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
> wrote:
> > Do a search and look up how many crashes, even people killed, by law
> > enforcement looking at computer terminals while driving. With some
> > agencies, if you get caught looking at your terminal while driving, it
> > is terminal for your job! On the other hand, information can be passed
> > by radio much safer.
> >
> > Mick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Rafferty Jr."
> > To: "main@Uniden.groups.io"
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 07:26:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Uniden] P25 for Cheap
> >
> > > When I was working, the CAD system, computers in car were used to
> > give back dispositions on calls, and when you wanted to give Dispatch
> > info that shouldn't be heard by the public. Everything else was in the
> > clear.
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> > > From: main@Uniden.groups.io on behalf of Jim Walls
> > > Sent: Friday, Novembegive i fo that shouldn't be heard by the
> > public.r 8, 2019 7:13 PM
> > > To: 'main@Uniden.groups.io'
> > > Subject: Re: [Uniden] P25 for Cheap
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve T said:
> > >
> > > > There are a lot of law enforcement agencies here in Ohio that have
> > went to in-cruiser laptops for most communications.
> > >
> > > > Scanner traffic on their freqs are virtually silent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, and no. Yes, lots of agencies use mobile data terminals or
> > computers in vehicles. They work very well for dispatches and things
> > like license and registration checks. What they don¡¦t work well for is
> > tactical traffic, and obviously not for anything when the officer is out
> > of the vehicle. If you are hearing nothing on the radio channels, most
> > likely they moved to new channels or systems. I can¡¦t give any
> > specifics about Ohio since I am not there.
> > >
> > > To give you an idea how true this is, I run a regional trunked radio
> > system that is used by several dozen cities. Some cities have all city
> > services on the system and some are just public safety. Almost all of
> > the police agencies have mobile data terminals of one sort or another in
> > their vehicles. I just ran a report of the busiest 50 talkgroups for the
> > past 24 hours. Here is a summary of the results:
> > >
> > > #1 ¡V #8 were all police dispatch talkgroups (all different agencies),
> > >
> > > #9 was a police tac talkgroup,
> > >
> > > #10 was a police dispatch talkgroup,
> > >
> > > #11 was a regional fire dispatch talkgroup (dispatches for 12 cities
> > plus one airport fire),
> > >
> > > #12 ¡V #19 were all police dispatch talkgroups,
> > >
> > > #20 was a police tac talkgroup,
> > >
> > > #21 was the first non-public safety talkgroup ¡V it was trash
> > collectors for one of the cities.
> > >
> > > Total radio time for the top 20 was 551 minutes for #1 down to 125
> > minutes for #20 (out of 1440 minutes for a full day). So the least busy
> > of those still talked for just over two hours out of the last 24. Hardly
> > what I would call silent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > BTW, almost universally, even though dispatches are sent out via data
> > terminal, they are also sent out by voice (sometimes a summary version).
> > The reason for this is situational awareness, It lets other units in the
> > area know what¡¦s going on. I can¡¦t tell you how many times that I
> > heard a dispatch, and it was almost immediately followed by another unit
> > (who is closer, but already on a call) say something like ¡§I¡¦ll be
> > clear in a minute and can take that call on xxx street¡¨. Happens all
> > the time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Walls - K6CCC ¡´ City of Glendale
> > >
> > > Information Services ¡´ Wireless Communications
> > >
> > > 120 N. Isabel St. ¡´ Glendale, CA 91206 ¡´ (818) 548-4804
> > >
> > > jwalls@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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