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Re: crypto comm
i spent nearly 30-yrs working in and managing a large consolidated 9-1-1 center in suburban chicago. can't recall any incidents in which the bad guys used a scanner to evade police. the criminals aren't that smart.
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tactical, warrant service, fugitive apprehension and the like should absolutely be encrypted 24/7. the rest, not so much.
On Nov 10, 2019, at 17:58, Walter C. Powis, Sr <wcpowissr@...
Just a personal thought. After spending many years in communications,
security and such, I am convinced that there are some things that the general
public has absolutely no need to know! Just my 2 cents!!
From: don robinson via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] crypto comm
Our officers go to their cell phones when
things get so risky.
On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 09:58:41 AM PST, Shawn Benoit
That sounds like a huge training issue. Not a problem with encryption.
Most people who demand things to be in the clear seem to have some issues
with authority. They are also the same people who say things like "I pay your
salary" or "the taxpayers MUST be able to hear the police." They also spout off
bout conspiracy theories about their local police.
The officers need encryption for secure communications. There are all sorts
of reasons why for example the following things are common over the air:
-victim info (sexual/Juvenile/domestic violence)
-NCIC (CJIS protected)
-Key holder info
-Suspect names (NOT proven convicted people)
-Officer to officer discussions (trying to figure out
This goes on. These guys are being attacked on a regular basis. The least
we can do is give them secure comms which is dirt cheap and included in just
about every radio off the shelf nowadays.
Also, question why you hold grudges with your local police and think they
owe you something.
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at
21:51 jim myers <kd7eir@...
We have about 9 LE agencies in my county. ONE of them insists on being
encrypted 24/7. A few years ago they had an officer chasing a suspect across
several municipalities. None of the other agencies could communicate with them
in real time, and by the time their dispatch called the agency that he was
currently chasing his suspect through with his location, several minutes had
passed, and he was nowhere neat that location. Sadly, he was found shot in the
head at the end of a road part way up a mountain.
At the time this happened, they were also on a standalone
communications system that isolated them from ALL other LE agencies in the
county. They finally decided to join the shared radio system, but STILL insist
upon 24/7 encryption for their talkgroups. They are still the ONLY encrypted
agency. They can switch to a shared, unencrypted, mutual channel if they need
assistance. The last time they needed help, no one in their department know
what channel to switch to...
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