Re: crypto comm


Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

"government" is
> elected by you and represents the citizens. The voting public has 100%
> control of public agencies.
Wow, guess we know what you are smoking down there in Colorado!

Mick

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Curtis
To: main@Uniden.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:16:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Uniden] crypto comm

>
> You all seem to forget... That unencrypted police radio means it is
> unencrypted for YOU and the criminals in town too.
>
> 26 years as a police officer in Denver, CO and while not frequent, there
> were many times where (especially burglars, youth gangs and outlaw
> motorcycle groups) used scanners to avoid capture.
>
> Being able to listen to public safety radio is NOT a "right" but just a
> desire. Public safety is a government function and the "government" is
> elected by you and represents the citizens. The voting public has 100%
> control of public agencies.
>
> Nuff said.
>
>
> On November 10, 2019 10:59:00 AM "ihc53" wrote:
> > 99 percent of police traffic should be in the clear, unencrypted. And you
> > are quite right, when everything is encrypted and in the shadows it will
> > smack of "secret police."
> >
> > With very few exceptions, everything should be open to the taxpayers to hear.
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: "William Barrett, KW1B"
> > Date: 11/9/19 5:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: main@Uniden.groups.io
> > Subject: [Uniden] crypto comm
> >
> > I believe that citizens have the right and the responsibility to supervise
> > at a certain level. Fully encrypted police comms are not accessaable,
> > while most are quite routine and do NOT require a high degree of
> > secrecy.
> >
> > In those few special other cases, there are methods of COMSEC
> > well-known to police and military communications people. Simply
> > encryping everything is lazy and can lead to Secret Police Mindset.
> > Not something most people would favor.
> >
> > Routine ops need to be in the clear.
> >
> > 73
> > bb
> > NC
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@Uniden.groups.io [mailto:main@Uniden.groups.io]On Behalf Of
> > Shawn Benoit
> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 15:45
> > To: main@uniden.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [Uniden] P25 for Cheap
> >
> >
> > I'm pro encryption for police and EMS communications. Nothing will change
> > that even though it's a hobby and I like to listen.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 13:09 Joe M. wrote:
> > Is that because crime only happens at the
> > police station and doesn't affect communities?
> >
> > Do you not care that you will be late to work because
> > there is an accident blocking your normal route?
> >
> > Do you not care that you will be ADDING
> > to the problem (traffic) in the above case?
> >
> > Are you fine with going to the mall when
> > there is an active shooter in the area?
> >
> > If there is a felon loose in your neighborhood,
> > are you OK letting your kids go out to play?
> >
> > A FOIA request will not solve any of these cases.
> > Encryption will not alert you to these cases.
> > Only clear communications will let you know WHEN you need to know it.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
>
>
>
>
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